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TouchEn nxKey: A keylogging anti-keylogger solution

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Re: TouchEn nxKey: A keylogging anti-keylogger solution

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Post by goranmoomin »

choeger wrote: post #4

I will bring this up the next time, someone laments about the lack of digitalization compared to other nations.

Honesty (from what I’ve heard) AFAIK the South Korean society itself is much more digitized than other first-world countries. It’s just that… digitalization happened a bit too fast with a bit too much legacy.

One can request a passport and receive it the next day from a machine without ever seeing a real person for more than 5 seconds… if you can tolerate installing these strange anti-keylogger programs.

Re: TouchEn nxKey: A keylogging anti-keylogger solution

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

It's interesting how long they could get away with such horrible practices despite having a neighbor up north that a) won't hesitate to use cybercrime to fund their country b) probably wouldn't mind causing some random disruption even if it can't profit from it.

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Post by Crosseye_Jack »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #42

It's interesting how long they could get away with such horrible practices despite having a neighbor up north that a) won't hesitate to use cybercrime to fund their country b) probably wouldn't mind causing some random disruption even if it can't profit from it.

I'm just surprised they managed to get rid of ActiveX :-P

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_compatibility_issues_in_So...

Re: TouchEn nxKey: A keylogging anti-keylogger solution

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Post by palant »

tlranfdnjsror wrote: post #37

@palant: Probably just some minor temporary weirdness but > Host palant.info not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

I was transferring the domain to a new provider, and the old provider decided to drop the DNS entries before the transfer was completed. Great service. :-/

Re: TouchEn nxKey: A keylogging anti-keylogger solution

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Post by sillystuff »

goranmoomin wrote: post #40

A bit more context for people who don’t live in South Korea (I’m a South Korean): Everybody knows that the systems are absurd . Most newer systems don’t require the use of such anti-keylogger programs. This is basically a countrywide legacy that we’re figuring our way out for ~30yrs. This started in the 90s where South Korea got high speed internet everywhere, and people demanded internet banking… when IE didn’t ship…

I wonder if forcing people to use Microsoft Windows for banking is why Linux usage is so low in S. Korea compared to just about anywhere else?

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/south-korea

Multiple orders of magnitude less than most places.

(assuming the numbers in the link are valid)

Re: TouchEn nxKey: A keylogging anti-keylogger solution

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Post by [deleted] »

goranmoomin wrote: post #40

A bit more context for people who don’t live in South Korea (I’m a South Korean): Everybody knows that the systems are absurd . Most newer systems don’t require the use of such anti-keylogger programs. This is basically a countrywide legacy that we’re figuring our way out for ~30yrs. This started in the 90s where South Korea got high speed internet everywhere, and people demanded internet banking… when IE didn’t ship…

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Re: TouchEn nxKey: A keylogging anti-keylogger solution

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Post by int_19h »

goodpoint wrote: post #23
jeroenhd wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on what you consider oppressive. In terms of international freedom indices, South Korea is about as free as the United States of America ( https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores or https://rsf.org/en/index ) or not far from it ( https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-i... ) Of course this doesn't say much if you don't consider the USA to be a very free country but I'd r…

> Of course this doesn't say much if you don't consider the USA to be a very free country It's not a matter of personal opinion. Many reputable sources place US in a pretty bad place compared to all other developed countries.

In terms of freedom specifically?

Re: TouchEn nxKey: A keylogging anti-keylogger solution

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Post by int_19h »

wkat4242 wrote: post #12
ThrowAgain wrote: post #7

Between this and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_law South Korea sounds like pretty oppressive country to live in.

Yeah it could be a cultural thing though - in our culture this kind of stuff is squarely up to the parents. I remember always BBS'ing from midnight because my daily connection time renewed at midnight :) As long as it didn't affect my school performance it was not a problem for my parents, and it was a handy time because they didn't make personal calls during the night so I didn't tie up the phone line for them. It w…

I kinda wonder to what extent neo-Confucian norms are widespread among Korea's elites, because that might explain quite a bit about its internal politics.

Re: TouchEn nxKey: A keylogging anti-keylogger solution

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Post by nwiswell »

goranmoomin wrote: post #41
choeger wrote: post #4

I will bring this up the next time, someone laments about the lack of digitalization compared to other nations.

Honesty (from what I’ve heard) AFAIK the South Korean society itself is much more digitized than other first-world countries. It’s just that… digitalization happened a bit too fast with a bit too much legacy. One can request a passport and receive it the next day from a machine without ever seeing a real person for more than 5 seconds… if you can tolerate installing these strange anti-keylogger programs.

> One can request a passport and receive it the next day from a machine without ever seeing a real person for more than 5 seconds…

This seems more like properly functioning government than advanced digitalization. I have no idea what takes the US State Department 6 weeks.

In fact, I'd guess the internal processes to issue a single passport are quite fast and that there would be no issue with achieving turnaround less than a week. The issue seems to be that the US Government regards any government function that takes less than a week to be "wasteful" or "overfunded" and reduces resources accordingly. Slowest wheel gets the grease, so to speak. It doesn't pay to be fast -- literally.

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