England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes • Hacker News Board

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by renewiltord » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 8:58 PM UTC

cat_plus_plus wrote: post #44

Just in time for wired internet to be obsolete. Especially for apartment buildings, makes much more sense to provide WiFi throughout private and common area than running cables to each unit. Even for individual homes, neighborhood 5g cells can do the trick for most people's needs. Also locking in current technology when constructing a building that could last a century is really dumb. Better to have access panels in…

Wired to my PS5 still delivers way faster (800 Mbps vs 300 Mbps) than WiFi even with the device being the one WiFi device on and transmitting in the house and situated under 1 m away. It's the default Comcast modem+router+wifi combo, but I imagine most people are using devices like that.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by thedaly » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 8:58 PM UTC

I wish that countries would mandate symmetrical connections as well. This would open up so much more opportunity for self hosting web apps and allow for decentralized sites, such as peertube, to function better.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by ChildOfChaos » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 8:58 PM UTC

Gordonjcp wrote: post #34

Can we maybe edit the title to say "UK" instead of "England"? Also, we nearly had gigabit fibre to the home 40 years ago (before anything even needed to run at 1Gbit, or you could afford the transceivers, admittedly) because BT's vision for the future of telephony was to rip out all the copper and run fibre to every single house. Then the right-wing extremist Thatcher government got wind of the idea and decided that…

If you wanna hack into the verges servers and change the headline of the article go ahead...

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by LarryMullins » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 8:59 PM UTC

drstewart wrote: post #25

xbmcuser wrote: post #10

I think this comes across as shocking to Americans but the thing is the rest of the world treats internet as a utility so most governments try to get cheap and fast internet for as large a portion of the population as possible. Where as US cities and towns are stuck under its isp corporate monopolies.

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Come on now, surely you know that when Europeans compare 'the rest of the world' to America, 'the rest of the world' is a slang term that means "Europe".

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by bobsmooth » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 8:59 PM UTC

Nifty3929 wrote: post #19

Instead of what? Everything comes instead of something else. Whatever effort and resources are spent adding gigabit to new homes will mean fewer homes, less food, shoes, medicine, natural gas, cars or whatever. Many people will be celebrating faster internet speeds for those who purchase these new homes, but it's hard to see what goes missing when it's a little here and there from across the economy.

"Everything comes instead of something else. Whatever effort and resources are spent adding fireproofing/structural stability/longevity to new homes will mean fewer homes, less food, shoes, medicine, natural gas, cars or whatever."

I'm honestly surprised to see this kind of narrow thinking on HN.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by cstejerean » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 9:01 PM UTC

ortusdux wrote: post #9

Is this symmetric gigabit or just download? I pay for gigabit down, 35 megabit up. My only other options are starlink or a $10k fiber install.

I'd pay 10k for a fiber install if that was an option.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by Eleison23 » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 9:02 PM UTC

cat_plus_plus wrote: post #44

Just in time for wired internet to be obsolete. Especially for apartment buildings, makes much more sense to provide WiFi throughout private and common area than running cables to each unit. Even for individual homes, neighborhood 5g cells can do the trick for most people's needs. Also locking in current technology when constructing a building that could last a century is really dumb. Better to have access panels in…

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Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by Veen » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 9:03 PM UTC

nimzoLarsen wrote: post #17

And along with that, more tax dollars flowing to ISPs in the form of subsidies.

Tax pounds.

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by waboremo » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 9:03 PM UTC

drstewart wrote: post #25

xbmcuser wrote: post #10

I think this comes across as shocking to Americans but the thing is the rest of the world treats internet as a utility so most governments try to get cheap and fast internet for as large a portion of the population as possible. Where as US cities and towns are stuck under its isp corporate monopolies.

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Why did you select those countries specifically?

Re: England just made gigabit internet a legal requirement for new homes

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Post by imhoguy » Mon, Jan 09, 2023, 9:03 PM UTC

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #29

It’s extremely challenging advocating for this in the USA because most people have no idea the difference between upload and download, and how data caps play into it. You can get gigabit 5G in many areas but it’s manifestly a different animal than symmetrical gigabit fiber internet without caps.

Fiber has caps too, although hidden under "Fair Usage Policy". I know as I see some stories on /r/DataHorder, some starting from 1TB/month. Ofc they are much higher than cellular/5G caps.