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Re: The organ as a wind instrument

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Anna Lapwood demonstrating the features of a pipe organ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzK-tYFGQx4 Edit: Although she didn't explain how they "programme" the buttons. Presumably by adjusting something in the guts of the organ.

Anna's great! Last year she played the Royal Albert Hall organ at a Bonobo electronic music concert! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdyAF9M3XVw

Re: The organ as a wind instrument

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There's a software that I used to emulate a pipe organ (and also harpsichords). I used it for years and it has a library with a lot of historical organs around the world: https://www.hauptwerk.com , as far as I know this is the only commercially supported PC/Mac software dedicated to this.

There are quite a few high-quality sampled pipe organs out there, most of which run in Native Instruments' Kontakt sampler software. My personal favorites are the RAH (https://www.royalalberthallorgan.com/) and the Rugby and Union Chapel organs from Spitfire Audio (https://www.spitfireaudio.com/symphonic-organ)

Re: The organ as a wind instrument

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The pipe organ is surely one of the most majestic & grand instruments, and I long for the day its most frequent use won't be drab church hymns. It's capable of so much more. It's also difficult to get exposure to. You've basically got make friends with a church music director to let you play theirs. That's not easy, especially as a queer self-taught musician—no religion, no music degree won't get you too far. It's a…

I don't want to be "that guy" but a mate of mine is the music director is in his local church here in the UK, plays the organ and piano, is mostly self taught and is also gay... he's even going to be teaching me to play the organ later on this year (and I'm joining his choir for a bit of fun... he also knows I'm not religious at all and in his own words "faith is not a requirement")

All I'm saying is you just need to find the right church and person... most people will happily share their passions with equally passionate beginners, and churches are crying out for organ players, they are a dying breed.

Re: The organ as a wind instrument

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The pipe organ is surely one of the most majestic & grand instruments, and I long for the day its most frequent use won't be drab church hymns. It's capable of so much more. It's also difficult to get exposure to. You've basically got make friends with a church music director to let you play theirs. That's not easy, especially as a queer self-taught musician—no religion, no music degree won't get you too far. It's a…

In a way, the entire room is the instrument. How cool is that.

Re: The organ as a wind instrument

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The pipe organ is surely one of the most majestic & grand instruments, and I long for the day its most frequent use won't be drab church hymns. It's capable of so much more. It's also difficult to get exposure to. You've basically got make friends with a church music director to let you play theirs. That's not easy, especially as a queer self-taught musician—no religion, no music degree won't get you too far. It's a…

I've got a second hand organ (trademark "Content", but there are more) at home with two manuals and (almost full) pedal. They're not expensive. There are three and four manual versions too. More than good enough to learn and practice. And no mistake: professional organists use these too, since practicing at a real organ is hard for them, too. Many (smaller) churches use similar organs instead of pipe organs, because of the economics.

> they're just intermediate representations of a full console with multiple manuals, pedalboard, couplers, reverberant room

They're near perfect recordings with all the features, e.g. https://www.sonusparadisi.cz/en/organs/netherlands/rotterdam...

If you want to hear what people play on their home setup: https://www.contrebombarde.com/concerthall/home/front

Re: The organ as a wind instrument

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an amateur pianist trying to learn organ specifically to play "drab" church hymns, I can say that while I admire the complexity and scope of the organ, At the same time, I don't find the organ particularly interesting musically. I just don't think it "sounds" great. I think this explains the lack of popularity of organ more than anything else. In my free time, I would much rather listen to piano music than organ m…

> No one is stopping you or any other secular organization from building your own organs. It seems weird to complain that churches were the only organizations willing to spend the money to build and maintain organs. If anything, you should be grateful they invested the resources in the first place. Without these churches, is it not possible the organ would be virtually extinct at this point? I think its reasonable to…

> While also lamenting the long history of exclusionary practices of the places these things exist.

Can you go into more detail as to these exclusionary practices? All organizations, all things really, are defined by both what they include and what they exclude. Nothing is fully inclusive, else that thing would have no meaning!

To be more concrete, How, were churches more exclusionary than other private or civic organizations of their times? When we judge the history of something, we really need to judge it in proper context, including by comparing to the society at large within the same time frame. On the whole, Christianity can be argued to be one of the most inclusive religions ever. It would have to be, else it couldn't have spread across the world like it did!

> The world isn't perfect, and as strong as the desire is to reduce things to a "good" or a "bad" the real world comes with confusing good and bad points that we don't have to average out into a final score.

I'm not sure what this sentence is supposed to be conveying, really. It's point is far too banal to be a nugget of wisdom. It's more like a clump of dirt of wisdom! The world isn't perfect? Thanks for the reminder! But we all have a choice as to how we interpret our world, and I'm suggesting that the primary emotion or feeling an organist should have towards churches is one of gratitude, at least while we're staying on topic and talking about organs.

Re: The organ as a wind instrument

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Mostly unrelated to wind instruments: I always thought motorcycles and musical instruments came from the same Yamaha, but apparently they split back in 1955. Interesting that after almost 70 years both companies are still using the same logo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_Motor_Company#Beginning...

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Re: The organ as a wind instrument

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I went down the rabbit hole on pipe organs some years back when a school I was working at didn't have working bells (ridiculous, I know) or synchronized clocks. The simplest organ pipe is basically a big-ass whistle. Besides the metal ones you see front and center, there are also wooden ones that are typically square in cross section and have a block and labium exactly like the recorder you may have been forced to play in elementary school. A recorder is basically a whistle with some extra holes so it can play different notes.

I got as far as building the pipe, buying a thrift-shop vacuum cleaner, hooking the hose out to the output end, scrounging the circuit board out of an extra USB keyboard and soldering a solid-state relay in place of the scroll lock LED (inspired by the bit in Cryptonomicon where the protagonist uses a keyboard LED as a Morse code output), and starting to hack some code together to turn the vacuum cleaner (via the keyboard/relay) on and off on a schedule before I decided that I wasn't going to become a teacher after all. I never did hook it all up.

All this to say: getting a single note instrument that makes some kind of noise and isn't tuned is ridiculously easy if you don't care about the noise you make creating the required airflow and don't involve a computer.

Re: The organ as a wind instrument

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post #4

Anna Lapwood demonstrating the features of a pipe organ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzK-tYFGQx4 Edit: Although she didn't explain how they "programme" the buttons. Presumably by adjusting something in the guts of the organ.

It's all computer-controlled, so the programming is probably done with a computer or a built-in digital interface.
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