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PromptArray: A Prompting Language for Neural Text Generators

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Re: PromptArray: A Prompting Language for Neural Text Generators

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This is exactly the same sort of "wasted effort" that folks argue against when discussing space exploration, lunar or Martian colonization: It looks like an utter waste of people's time and effort... until they succeed.

I wish folks trying to formalize prompt generation godspeed.

Re: PromptArray: A Prompting Language for Neural Text Generators

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Dijkstra said that if we ever had the misfortune of having machines programmable in natural language, sooner or later someone would construct a formal language over it. Playing out in real time. We're living legendary times.

> Dijkstra said that if we ever had the misfortune of having machines programmable in natural language

We have humans, and we spend a lot of time constructing formal specialized languages for specifying instructions, expected behavior, etc., for them (ironically, many of them, in the history of computing, specifically targeting the people whose job is to program computers), so that's... a pretty obvious prediction.

Re: PromptArray: A Prompting Language for Neural Text Generators

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post #3

Dijkstra said that if we ever had the misfortune of having machines programmable in natural language, sooner or later someone would construct a formal language over it. Playing out in real time. We're living legendary times.

> Dijkstra said that if we ever had the misfortune of having machines programmable in natural language We have humans, and we spend a lot of time constructing formal specialized languages for specifying instructions, expected behavior, etc., for them (ironically, many of them, in the history of computing, specifically targeting the people whose job is to program computers), so that's... a pretty obvious prediction.

From the abundance of people who are still after this "programming in natural language" nonsense, it seems to me like repetita iuvant.

Re: PromptArray: A Prompting Language for Neural Text Generators

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This is exactly the same sort of "wasted effort" that folks argue against when discussing space exploration, lunar or Martian colonization: It looks like an utter waste of people's time and effort... until they succeed. I wish folks trying to formalize prompt generation godspeed.

I wouldn't call it wasted effort (neither would I call space exploration and lunar or martian colonization as wasted effort) - it's not the kind of bullshit "prompt engineering" that tries to find magic phrases and sentence structures, and gets invalidated every time the model is updated. If I understood the article correctly, this language implements its operators by stepping the language model directly, applying the logical operations to token probability distributions. This actually makes sense as a generic and reliable method for these kinds of models, as it works below the prompt level, directly on the underlying machinery.

Re: PromptArray: A Prompting Language for Neural Text Generators

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This is exactly the same sort of "wasted effort" that folks argue against when discussing space exploration, lunar or Martian colonization: It looks like an utter waste of people's time and effort... until they succeed. I wish folks trying to formalize prompt generation godspeed.

I wouldn't call it wasted effort (neither would I call space exploration and lunar or martian colonization as wasted effort) - it's not the kind of bullshit "prompt engineering" that tries to find magic phrases and sentence structures, and gets invalidated every time the model is updated. If I understood the article correctly, this language implements its operators by stepping the language model directly, applying th…

We agree! But now I understand the work itself better thanks to your summary, so thank you.
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