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I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're struggling, and get $1000 from someone who made $100M on crypto, would you be in a hurry to pay them back, or even care at all?

> get $1000 from someone It's not "get" if it's a loan. The IRS might also be interested if you treat this a taxable gift rather than a loan... (unlikely they'd care for $1000).

IIRC gifts aren’t taxable unless they exceed $14,000 in a year.

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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Meanwhile, I go through life wondering if I borrowed $20 from someone and forgot to pay them back for months and kinda hope they would just say something if I did.

I _constantly_ try to evaluate where I stand with people. If they bought the most recent round of drinks, the next one is on me. If we split dinner, I'm thinking about how their total averaged out compared to mine. If I paid for something, I'm thinking about how much I add to their ledger. I have a "disadvantange" threshold of ~$100 where I won't say anything, but if the imbalance continues to tilt in their favor and they don't do anything to correct it, I might start insulating myself from their financial involvement..

I'm sure most people don't care about it as much as I do, but I have this deep-seated need to make sure I'm as square with as many people as I can be and I expect the same from everyone else. It's not just about being owed, it's about owing, too. I wish I knew where it came from. I wish I was better about just letting it go.

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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I loan money to people and never expect to be repaid. If someone asks for $2k I give them $5k. $400 give them $1k. Sometimes I get paid back. Usually not. It’s because people are aware I have money so various people ask. The goal isn’t to get paid back. Often these acquaintances cut off all contact. The goal is to never be asked for money again and slowly bled out by frequent sob stories. If they know they are alread…

Why would you pay so much just for them not to annoy you? That seems a very high price for some peace and quiet. I would just cut off contact with those people. I don't really get this much because I'm not rich, but if people ask me for loans just to get money out of me I will be the one breaking off contact. On the other hand I have a friend of mine who has loaned money and never paid me back, but she is always in a…

Guessing from the username Monero-xmr, they accidentally found themselves in the $100-millionaire bracket. More money than a person could spend in a lifetime. What do you do with that kind of wealth?

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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I still do this on occasion, with these rules -

1. You can only have one loan at a time.

2. The money has to be used to complete a goal. Moving across country is a goal, paying rent is not.

3. There is no repayment date, but you do have to write me an email stating what you are using the money for and that you agree to the rules.

Those are the simplest rules I could come up with that prevent abuse without being too onerous. They seem to work. About 1/3 of the loans I've given out have been repaid.

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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I loan money to people and never expect to be repaid. If someone asks for $2k I give them $5k. $400 give them $1k. Sometimes I get paid back. Usually not. It’s because people are aware I have money so various people ask. The goal isn’t to get paid back. Often these acquaintances cut off all contact. The goal is to never be asked for money again and slowly bled out by frequent sob stories. If they know they are alread…

Similar thing happened to me. I had a roommate who regularly needed a loan for rent. They eventually descended into drug use and chaos and we wanted them out of the house. They kept missing their supposed move-out dates, so I offered to cancel out their ~$5k in debt if they were out on a certain date. Keep in mind I was unable to afford groceries many of these months. In the end, they cleared out on that date and I n…

There is an old saying if you lend someone $100 and never see them again. It was probably a good use of $100.

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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I just don't loan money. If someone asks for a loan, I either give it to them outright, or I say no.

Money I can't afford to give away is money I probably shouldn't be loaning out.

Usually, people pay me back, and it's a nice treat.

Sometimes, people don't, and because I wasn't expecting the money back, and wasn't counting on it, it's fine.

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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Well it took me borrowing one video game to learn that lesson. "No, you must've borrowed it to someone else" when I asked. First game I bought for my own pocket money, which at time, in Poland, was a lot for a kid as it was full price title, Baldur's Gate 1 in nice box with manual and a map, and dubbed gloriously with then-radio/TV stars, hell, the narrator voice was better than original. Needless to say I was pretty…

pożyczyć is both borrow and lend :) In English there's a difference of direction. "Kuba pożyczył moj długopis" - Jakub borrowed my pen "Kuba pożyczył mi jego długopos" - Jakub lent me his pen I'm learning Polish slowly, living in Warsaw...

> "Kuba pożyczył moj długopis"

Surely a true Pole would say "kurwa Kuba pożyczył moj pierdolic długopis" ? ;-)

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> get $1000 from someone It's not "get" if it's a loan. The IRS might also be interested if you treat this a taxable gift rather than a loan... (unlikely they'd care for $1000).

Why the heck private gifts are taxable and it is tolerated?

Because then your boss would just give you 99% of your salary as a gift.

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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post #83
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> get $1000 from someone It's not "get" if it's a loan. The IRS might also be interested if you treat this a taxable gift rather than a loan... (unlikely they'd care for $1000).

Why the heck private gifts are taxable and it is tolerated?

Because if you don't gifts become a very convenient way to perform money laundering?

Re: I went through a period where I loaned money to anyone that asked me

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> get $1000 from someone It's not "get" if it's a loan. The IRS might also be interested if you treat this a taxable gift rather than a loan... (unlikely they'd care for $1000).

IIRC gifts aren’t taxable unless they exceed $14,000 in a year.

There is both an annual (currently $17,000/recipient) and a lifetime (currently $12.92 million/donor) limit before the donor pays gift taxes.
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