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The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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Food with placenames often are misleading and not from the placename that makes up the dish: french fries, hamburger, german chocolate cake, danish, wiener, etc. add california roll to that list. [and how could I forget Hawaiian pizza? as noted in sibling comment] Also, the headline is wrong, it was not a Canadian chef but rather a Japanese chef living in Canada.

Turkey: The Turkish word for a turkey is hindi, which literally means “Indian.” The original word in French, coq d’Inde, meant “rooster of India,” and has since shortened to dinde. These names likely derive from the common misconception that India and the New World were one and the same. In Portuguese, it’s literally a “Peru bird,” and in Malay, it’s called a “Dutch chicken.” https://www.dictionary.com/e/turkey/

In fact recent genetic research shows that the "chicken" derives from jungle fowl with genetic diversity centered on the eastern Indian / Myanmar region. So the Turkish name is in fact accurate, with respect to the probable origin of the bird (in a Turkish domesticated context). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31806553

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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And "Hawaii" as a modifier to food generally means with pineapple, appropriate or not. Though, that makes me wonder what ingredient the other 48 states would add. Suggestions welcome.

* kentucky -> with bourbon * texas -> supersized * chicago (close enough) -> with green sweet pickle relish

* Maine -> lobster

* Idaho -> potato

* Louisiana (or just New Orleans) -> Cajun spices

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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"California" as a modifier to food generally means "with avocado" If you get a "California burger" it will have avocado on it

""California" as a modifier to food generally means "with avocado"" I read that quickly, ignored the "to food" component, and then imagined all Californians walking around with an avocado in their pocket at all times...

Californian here. What, you don't have an avocado in your pocket at all times? Jokes aside, my wife pulled one out of her purse when we were out eating so she could add it to some food that was not already "Californian". You joke, but you're probably not far off....

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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The fish used is mostly Pollack.

so is it not even crab?

It's distressing to me that your earlier comments made assertions about the contents of imitation crab, yet you're not actually aware of the contents of imitation crab...

It's a type of fish cake, basically. It's white fish meat ground into a paste and formed. Surimi is made into things that aren't imitation crab, too! Fish balls and fish cakes and all sorts of things.

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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They serve Taiwanese beef noodle soup. Obvious reasons why they opted for California branding instead.

> They serve Taiwanese beef noodle soup. Obvious reasons why they opted for California branding instead. How depressingly very China of them, what are Hong Kong noodles called: 1 country 1 system illegally annexed under extreme violence and duress noodles?

Keep in mind that this chain is > 20 years old (was there in 2002 when I studied at PKU). There is a lot of Taiwan food in the mainland these days that isn't labelled covertly.

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And "Hawaii" as a modifier to food generally means with pineapple, appropriate or not. Though, that makes me wonder what ingredient the other 48 states would add. Suggestions welcome.

* kentucky -> with bourbon * texas -> supersized * chicago (close enough) -> with green sweet pickle relish

I think of a "chicago dog" as a hotdog with (among other things) a pickle on top instead of relish. Not sure where I got that idea though.

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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"California" as a modifier to food generally means "with avocado" If you get a "California burger" it will have avocado on it

Except in the case of the California burrito which typically adds French fries [1] into the mix [1] https://www.themanual.com/food-and-drink/california-burrito/

I figured someone would bring that up. However in my version of reality the abomination known as a "California burrito" does not exist.

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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I realize that food can be a touchy subject, and I hope this doesn't come across as rude, as cultural appropriation (or worse, cultural bastardization), but I've been eating a lot of sushi at home lately in a way that I really love, but don't see anywhere except for one restaurant.

I can't roll my own sushi. I don't have tools or the skills. But I've been making sushi at home in a way that I really enjoy and I thought I'd share. I make what I call a "sushi pile". Or, as my Asian wife and stepdaughter teasingly call "white guy sushi". The closest thing it might come to would be nigiri, but it's not quite that.

We buy frozen fish steaks (usually tuna or salmon). Thaw them out and slice them into small rectangles. Make a bowl of sushi rice. You know those seaweed snacks that come in the small rectangular plastic trays? We take two sheets of those and lay them flat on the cutting board. Put a plop of sushi rice on it. Put the fish on top, add sriracha mayo (made with Japanese mayo). Squirt some Japanese BBQ Sauce (we really like Bachan's), and a dollop of wasabi. If we're lucky, maybe, we have some fresh uni is on the table. Shove the whole thing in your mouth. They're large, so it's ungraceful.

When we have sushi night at home, the ingredients are all on the table and we just "build your own" as we eat. I understand if this sounds like a bastardization to purists, and maybe it's not even fair to call it sushi. But my family and I really enjoy it. Alternatively, it makes for really good poke bowl.

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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I realize that food can be a touchy subject, and I hope this doesn't come across as rude, as cultural appropriation (or worse, cultural bastardization), but I've been eating a lot of sushi at home lately in a way that I really love, but don't see anywhere except for one restaurant. I can't roll my own sushi. I don't have tools or the skills. But I've been making sushi at home in a way that I really enjoy and I though…

I love this idea. Got any good tips on making sushi rice?

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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I used to hang with normal Japanese people a lot...like I hung out in tons of very average places, rural danchis, volunteered in rojin homes, etc. Have seen them doing shockingly un-Japanese things with food. Every "Japanese food" rule that I was taught by Japanese people was broken, again and again. After a while I realized, America, Japan, the cultural strengths of these nations can be defined as personality types.…

> Have seen them doing shockingly un-Japanese things with food. Like what?

Maybe they put soy sauce on their rice.
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