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Artist banned from art subreddit because their work looked AI-generated

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Re: Artist banned from art subreddit because their work looked AI-generated

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Post by Dayshine »

asddubs wrote: post #7

It seems other redditors are presenting some evidence for it potentially being AI-generated: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/107eent/the... Reading further, it's probably not AI art, but the sketches at least did lift some artwork from somewhere else: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/107eent/the...

Which is absolutely fine? What's wrong with using random art as a placeholder to give a client a sense of what it might look like?

The final image had no plagerism.

Re: Artist banned from art subreddit because their work looked AI-generated

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Post by garbagecoder »

gnutrino wrote: post #5
logicalmonster wrote: post #3

The biggest story here isn't about art or AI. The most interesting part of this story is that moderation on Reddit is so horrifyingly and provably awful. If an art sub-reddit, with limited commercial or political manipulation value is moderated so badly, you have to wonder what happens on subreddits that might actually be able to influence politics or commerce and that smart people with resources are trying to wield…

In my experience Reddit mods are in general jaded intolerant assholes. I’m sure this is because the Redditors they deal with are in general jaded intolerant assholes.

Maybe, but users everywhere are like that and moderators elsewhere aren't the first handful of people that latched onto a keyword 15 years ago.

The weirdest thing about reddit is that you have this anonymous group of all powerful moderators who seem to spend their time overriding the site's most known feature: karma.

I'm not arguing in favor of groupthink, but it seems like the upvote/downvote system is almost never used to guide the direction a community goes in because people seem to have a proprietary-like interest in keeping it the "same" before it got "popular."

Re: Artist banned from art subreddit because their work looked AI-generated

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Post by masswerk »

asddubs wrote: post #7

It seems other redditors are presenting some evidence for it potentially being AI-generated: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/107eent/the... Reading further, it's probably not AI art, but the sketches at least did lift some artwork from somewhere else: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/107eent/the...

I like this comment, "More likely it's a proof that's not AI art - it usually doesn't reuse that much verbatim."

Re: Artist banned from art subreddit because their work looked AI-generated

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Post by Fricken »

logicalmonster wrote: post #3

The biggest story here isn't about art or AI. The most interesting part of this story is that moderation on Reddit is so horrifyingly and provably awful. If an art sub-reddit, with limited commercial or political manipulation value is moderated so badly, you have to wonder what happens on subreddits that might actually be able to influence politics or commerce and that smart people with resources are trying to wield…

The bigger story is that we're entering a world it is becomeing harder to know the difference between what is real and what isn't, and that foments distrust.

Re: Artist banned from art subreddit because their work looked AI-generated

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Post by jabroni_salad »

asddubs wrote: post #7

It seems other redditors are presenting some evidence for it potentially being AI-generated: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/107eent/the... Reading further, it's probably not AI art, but the sketches at least did lift some artwork from somewhere else: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/107eent/the...

Unless I am mistaken, that reddit poster is accusing the artist of plagiarizing, but the evidence is only from some preproduction reference images and spotlighting elements that are not in the actual final work.

This piece is a commissioned book cover so it would be expected that he slapped together a 'demo' for the author to approve before making the final work.

Re: Artist banned from art subreddit because their work looked AI-generated

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Post by richbell »

maest wrote: post #10
RegnisGnaw wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect (I may be wrong) that most of the moderators on the bigger subreddits have patrons in one way or another.

There is considerable economic value in being able to control the eyeballs that visit the large subreddits, so it's expected that mods will want to monetise their power somehow. r/HailCorporate sometimes goes overboard with their paranoia, but they also have clear evidence of how much reddit is gamed by users such as u/gallowboob

IIRC GallowBoob was known to work for a company that advertised things on Reddit, and was still allowed to become a moderator of a large number of subreddits. He then used that power to remove competing posts and ensure his own reached the front page. Absolute insanity.

Re: Artist banned from art subreddit because their work looked AI-generated

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Post by skyyler »

snowpid wrote: post #8
gnutrino wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience Reddit mods are in general jaded intolerant assholes. I’m sure this is because the Redditors they deal with are in general jaded intolerant assholes.

And in many cases below 18 years as nobody seriously have to do moderator tasks.

This is something I don't see brought up in this discussion often.

I was an active reddit moderator from the ages of 13 to 17... Once I got a job I didn't have time to waste on it anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of moderators on reddit are minors.

Re: Artist banned from art subreddit because their work looked AI-generated

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Post by richbell »

aliswe wrote: post #15

On the other hand though, it looks strange. That sharp sleeve angle, Two (not one) eyes of sauron randomly in the sky? Can we at least agree that it looks very unconventional?

For what it's worth, I agree that it looks strange. However, the fact that he offered to send the PSD and progress pics but was still banned makes the mods look incredibly bad.
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