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The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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Food with placenames often are misleading and not from the placename that makes up the dish: french fries, hamburger, german chocolate cake, danish, wiener, etc. add california roll to that list. [and how could I forget Hawaiian pizza? as noted in sibling comment] Also, the headline is wrong, it was not a Canadian chef but rather a Japanese chef living in Canada.

>Also, the headline is wrong, it was not a Canadian chef but rather a Japanese chef living in Canada. According to wikipedia he moved to Canada in 1971 at age 21. It calls him Japanese-Canadian. I'd wager he's become a Canadian citizen by now, though I can't be bothered to research it. Do you have evidence that is he not Canadian?

> I'd wager he's become a Canadian citizen by now

52 years? No, at best landed immigrant status. With the legendary speed of Canadian bureaucracy I expect he'll be made a citizen posthumously.

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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> And "Hawaii" as a modifier to food generally means with pineapple I associate it more with meaning "with spam".

What's interesting to me is that there seem to be a number of "Hawaii" dishes (involving pineapple) that all seem to date back to roughly the same timeframe (1950s) but seem to have very different origin stories. For example, "Toast Hawaii" appeared in Germany in 1955, consisting of a slice of toasted white bread, one or two slices of cooked ham, a pineapple ring, a slice of processed cheese and a cocktail cherry, ba…

I think Hawaii was historically the largest producer of pineapple in the US, which may explain the association.

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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Hate to be the bearer of bad news but there isn't any crab in them.

Seems the original Tojo recipe in the article use real crab meat. Funnily, I am part of the (few?) people that actually prefer imitation crab meat to real crab meat. If only because cracking open crab shells is too troublesome.

you should not. imitation crab is invented to be able to sell low grade crab. they just blend whatever they have, add mixture of aromas and extenders to hide this and to standardize the taste. like chicken mcnuggets basically. it is not poison, and i dont think it's unhealthy, but they rip you off hard

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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At the time of his invention, back in '71, I'd say he was pretty Japanese. Today he's likely Canadianized. So the spirit of the invention is Japanese, rather than Canadian. If I move to the UK and invent something, is it automatically a British invention, or an American invention?

Seems like a straightforward question, as soon as we can agree on whether Nikola Tesla was Serbian/Croatian/Austrian/Yugoslavian/American.

It seems pretty accepted he was Balkan. At a minimum European. Nationality-wise he was Serbian-American.

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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Seems the original Tojo recipe in the article use real crab meat. Funnily, I am part of the (few?) people that actually prefer imitation crab meat to real crab meat. If only because cracking open crab shells is too troublesome.

you should not. imitation crab is invented to be able to sell low grade crab. they just blend whatever they have, add mixture of aromas and extenders to hide this and to standardize the taste. like chicken mcnuggets basically. it is not poison, and i dont think it's unhealthy, but they rip you off hard

The fish used is mostly Pollack.

Re: The California roll was invented by a Japanese-Canadian chef (2020)

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Food with placenames often are misleading and not from the placename that makes up the dish: french fries, hamburger, german chocolate cake, danish, wiener, etc. add california roll to that list. [and how could I forget Hawaiian pizza? as noted in sibling comment] Also, the headline is wrong, it was not a Canadian chef but rather a Japanese chef living in Canada.

Lebanon bologna is from Lebanon... County. Not the country.

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