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> many places have a minimum time the doors have to remain open under ADA guidelines. What's the logic behind requiring this to happen every time? Why not just have a handicap button like doors do, and letting the elevator stay efficient the rest of the time?
How would a handicap person hit that button?
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In Seoul's subway stations, elevators usually take forever to close, like long enough to make you think "Geez if I just walked I would be on the other floor by now!" And that's exactly the reason, i.e., to shoo away those with a good pair of legs, because otherwise people who do need elevators might end up waiting forever.
But even elevators in skyscrapers usually take forever to close, and nobody expects you to walk up stairs to the 50th floor just because you have a good pair of legs.
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One reason door close buttons don’t work is because many places have a minimum time the doors have to remain open under ADA guidelines. Once that time has passed, the door close. So there is no window in which the button would be useful.
That seems like a prodigious waste of everyone's time. In Japan, from what I've experienced, when there are not many people, you can get the door to close immediately after you get in, and it starts moving very soon after that. Imagine all the productive hours lost because of this.
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That seems like a prodigious waste of everyone's time. In Japan, from what I've experienced, when there are not many people, you can get the door to close immediately after you get in, and it starts moving very soon after that. Imagine all the productive hours lost because of this.
Hours? Seriously
I remember a long time ago encountering an elevator (in the US) where the physical buttons were the push on/push off type so you could cancel using another press, and they also popped back out once the desired floor was reached. Anyone else remember that type of control? It's probably from the 40s/50s. I haven't seen one since.
I did a bit more searching and, thanks to YouTube's elevator enthusiasts (yes, really), I was able to find video of this type of control in operation, although it doesn't show whether this one will pop out and cancel if you press again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZUUr2nHpAE There's also the "push to call, pull to cancel" mentioned in a sibling comment --- observe how the buttons are shaped such that they imply…
Many thanks for these videos, the shape of the buttons in the last video is exactly how I remember them (both the push/pull floor select buttons and the push-only door close/open buttons, and yes, I'm sure it was an Otis); the main difference is that there were many more floors.
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Hours? Seriously
It might only be a few minutes a day, but when applied on millions of people using elevators every single day, it adds up.
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In the USA 99% of people press the "close door" button immediately upon entering, without looking whether someone else is currently headed to the same elevator. It makes sense to disable a button that people can't use politely.
How do you know they don't just do it because they're used to the door not closing immediately?
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Elevators should have lower buttons for the handicapped
"All handicapped people are in a wheel chair"
"Car Control Height. Maximum height for control buttons and mechanisms is 54 inches (1370 mm). Minimum height is 35 inches (890 mm)."
https://www.ada-compliance.com/ada-compliance/ada-elevators....