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Re: Social Quitting

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

lanstin wrote: post #25
ekianjo wrote: post #13

> As I type these words, a mass exodus is underway from Twitter and Facebook. No. Given that the number of Twitter users is increasing the premise of this article is false.

Mastodon has seen pretty solid increases in usage rhe last month or so. Certainly a lot of journalists, cs folks, and science people. and i believe Facebook usage has declined to the point it is discussed on earnings calls. Even very large and successful networked media companies can wither away (source: I worked at AOL once) https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46565/ozymandias

>Mastodon has seen pretty solid increases in usage the last month or so. Certainly a lot of journalists, cs folks, and science people.

can it be people are keeping double presence, and would like to switch to Mastodon when it becomes convenient or necessary to do so, but right now are also on Twitter.

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Post by simula67 »

p1esk wrote: post #38
orsenthil wrote: post #34

How does this apply to Whatsapp? The way I see, users of whatsapp cannot quit whatsapp. It is like quitting their phone.

What do you mean? What’s so unique about Whatsapp?

Not much, but it has become the default way to share information for many groups: churches, friend/family groups, study groups, and even some government associations.

If you do not have WhatsApp it has become very difficult to navigate life. For example, I had uninstalled it before going to college but had to reinstall it when I realized it might stop me from graduating.

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Post by Endy »

travisgriggs wrote: post #37

There’s that old saying “God gave you two ears and one mouth, please use in that proportion.” So much of the social aspect of the internet has been about “giving more people a voice”, and we’ve chased that desire at the blogging, milli-blogging, micro-blogging level. I’m undecided, but I have a hunch that the increase in “speaking” via the internet has not increased at the same level as encouraging people to “listen.…

You're suggesting that one of the old Rules of the Internet, LURK MOAR, should be more suggested. I agree with you, but I think this is one of those problems that the Eternal September brought on.

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Post by Existenceblinks »

travisgriggs wrote: post #37

There’s that old saying “God gave you two ears and one mouth, please use in that proportion.” So much of the social aspect of the internet has been about “giving more people a voice”, and we’ve chased that desire at the blogging, milli-blogging, micro-blogging level. I’m undecided, but I have a hunch that the increase in “speaking” via the internet has not increased at the same level as encouraging people to “listen.…

Plus, engagement numbers to keep your addiction.

Action.jpg speaks louder than words! Short video speaks itself like a big mouth.

Re: Social Quitting

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Post by Endy »

subpixel wrote: post #29
Swizec wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a vibe shift. The hard numbers may not be there (yet?), but the early signs are. Facebook has been dead for years, unless you count instagram. Twitter never actually caught on with the normies. Gen Z is on TikTok. In my friend groups everything that used to happen on Facebook now happens on private WhatsApp, iMessage, and Slack groups.

Facebook is still a thriving host of non-technical communities and classifieds. The features and experience across both of those use cases are constantly being degraded and are user-hostile, but FB is still winning. Something in the vein of Discord will eventually replace FB groups, I think. Classified is probably the service best protected by the most of FB’s network effect.

Nextdoor also has a local ads / classified ads section. I expect that would be the next destination for the FB Marketplace users (since they mostly fled Craigslist previously).

Re: Social Quitting

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Post by trilbyglens »

subpixel wrote: post #29
Swizec wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a vibe shift. The hard numbers may not be there (yet?), but the early signs are. Facebook has been dead for years, unless you count instagram. Twitter never actually caught on with the normies. Gen Z is on TikTok. In my friend groups everything that used to happen on Facebook now happens on private WhatsApp, iMessage, and Slack groups.

Facebook is still a thriving host of non-technical communities and classifieds. The features and experience across both of those use cases are constantly being degraded and are user-hostile, but FB is still winning. Something in the vein of Discord will eventually replace FB groups, I think. Classified is probably the service best protected by the most of FB’s network effect.

It's unreal to me how poor Facebook's actual product is. I regularly get white screens of death on the site, viewing a photo from the feed dumps the feed in the background forcing you to rescroll the whole page to get back where you were, account pages are little more than naked HTML... It's so shitty! Don't start me on how poor the business experience is either. Get locked out of an account or get flagged in error? Ha fuck you customer!

The only thing floating them is the network.

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Post by Existenceblinks »

Gigachad wrote: post #55
btheshoe wrote: post #48

It seems to me that the deaths of Twitter and Facebook are being greatly exaggerated (by this article, and by the vibes generally). A decrease in users is not the same thing as a mass exodus. And I'm frankly skeptical of any claims that Twitter is facing an existential decrease in users.

“The great resignation”, “quiet quitting” and now “social quitting” are all instances of the media turning tiny observed trends or even normal operations in to some great names social shift when the reality is not much has changed.

Yeah good luck wishing for people to stop liking likes and showing off. That's the eternal engine the article missed.

Re: Social Quitting

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Post by onion2k »

btheshoe wrote: post #48

It seems to me that the deaths of Twitter and Facebook are being greatly exaggerated (by this article, and by the vibes generally). A decrease in users is not the same thing as a mass exodus. And I'm frankly skeptical of any claims that Twitter is facing an existential decrease in users.

And I'm frankly skeptical of any claims that Twitter is facing an existential decrease in users.

I agree but mostly because I think the exodus happened years ago. If you look at the view counts for tweets that don't 'go viral' most of them get seen by about 10% of the account's followers. Even a popular account like Elon's doesn't get more than 20 or 30% of the followers seeing the tweets most of the time. Whacky timeline algorithm fun aside, that implies a large number of users aren't regularly checking their accounts any more. Twitter probably peaked a long time ago.

Re: Social Quitting

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Post by thefz »

photochemsyn wrote: post #16

> "Twitter got bought out by a low-attention-span, overconfident billionaire who started pulling out Jenga blocks to see whether the system would fall over, and when it did, we all got crushed by the falling blocks." I've spent years mocking Twitter for it's short character limit (designed IMO for the low-attention-span trend) and the siloizing/bunkering effect of Facebook and groups (where never a contrary opinion i…

Anything paragraph-length and it needs to be broken in numbered tweets to create a "thread". It's horrible for anything different from its base use case.
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