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Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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Re: Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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Another cool thing is that most elevators have a phone line. It's used for the emergency button but usually also accepts inbound commands. In our old office building the installers had written the number in pencil and I called it a few times. It answered. Unfortunately it didn't activate the speaker, there must be some code. Because this would have been amazing to play practical jokes on my friends.

I tried some basic DTMF but couldn't figure it out, sadly..

Re: Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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> According to the chart, if you’re on an elevator made by Mitsubishi, Matsushita, Toshiba, or America’s Otis, you can cancel a floor by quickly tapping twice (“double-clicking”) on the corresponding button.

If I had to guess I'd say in the US it's nearly always Otis or Schindler elevators that I'm riding. Do the Otis elevators installed in Japan have this feature but the Otis ones in the US lack the feature? I've never tried double-clicking to undo.

Re: Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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Other things about Japanese elevators 99% the "close door" button works immediately. Vs say USA where 80% are not even connected and where some are connected but the door doesn't respond for 1-2 seconds? 95% there are no light sensors, only pressure sensors. I'm guessing in the USA those are mandatory that there is a light sensor that if interrupted, causes the doors to open. In Japan those mostly don't exist, there…

In the USA close door button is generally gated behind the firefighter's emergency operation key being activated from what I understand?

I don't think this is the case. Maybe it's a placebo button in some cases? But I've definitely ridden in elevators where the "close door" button has nearly immediate effect (usually older ones). The button never overrides the safety bumpers that reopen the doors, they just bring about the natural closing sooner.

Re: Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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You don't think that before doing this gesture, the individual would check if there were people waiting to get on the elevator?

Hardly seems like it'd save any time if they would.

It doesn't take any time, you just see if there's people outside or not when the doors open.

Re: Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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> In Japan it's not uncommon to have someone exit the elevator and just as they exit, press the close button so the door will close immediately behind them. This is a "sorry I interrupted your time by having to stop the elevator" gesture. This wouldn't work in the USA because the light sensors would trigger the doors reopening. Sounds annoying. If I see an elevator stop at a floor then I'd like a chance to actually g…

I never saw anyone do this in Japan. Because you can slide out before the doors are fully open, in this case people in elevator can close the doors earlier. If you wait for them to fully open and close them yourself then its wasting time.

I haven't seen this either, but the only building I'm particularly familiar with used 2 story elevators (board at 1 or 2, arrive at 17 or 18), so I'm guessing the close door button isn't going to do much (the elevator on the lower level has to deal with the loading conditions of the upper level, and vice-versa).

Re: Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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Other things about Japanese elevators 99% the "close door" button works immediately. Vs say USA where 80% are not even connected and where some are connected but the door doesn't respond for 1-2 seconds? 95% there are no light sensors, only pressure sensors. I'm guessing in the USA those are mandatory that there is a light sensor that if interrupted, causes the doors to open. In Japan those mostly don't exist, there…

In the USA 99% of people press the "close door" button immediately upon entering, without looking whether someone else is currently headed to the same elevator. It makes sense to disable a button that people can't use politely.

How do you know they don't just do it because they're used to the door not closing immediately?

Re: Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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> According to the chart, if you’re on an elevator made by Mitsubishi, Matsushita, Toshiba, or America’s Otis, you can cancel a floor by quickly tapping twice (“double-clicking”) on the corresponding button. If I had to guess I'd say in the US it's nearly always Otis or Schindler elevators that I'm riding. Do the Otis elevators installed in Japan have this feature but the Otis ones in the US lack the feature? I've ne…

I have had it work once in the US out of more than 10 attempts.

   It did also work on a cruise ship, which was good because kids had hit all the floor buttons and run.
Double tapping or holding a lighted button works to cancel all the time in Japan.

There are other button codes. Once, when I was in Japan and we waited at 8am for a lot of full elevators going past opening up the person I got in with (to another nearly full elevator) held down the G button for several seconds, all of the floors flashed and we went straight down without stopping. I asked as we got off, and apparently on other elevators this floor bypass can be done by holding down the close door button the entire trip.

Re: Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the USA 99% of people press the "close door" button immediately upon entering, without looking whether someone else is currently headed to the same elevator. It makes sense to disable a button that people can't use politely.

How do you know they don't just do it because they're used to the door not closing immediately?

Does it matter in a situation, where you don't want to close the door immediately?

Re: Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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I'm still surprised nobody does the obvious. Have a voice announce each floor. Much better than a stupid chime as each floor is passed, as then blind people have to count. The voice is cheap as dirt, too. As the IBM PC showed, you can get perfectly intelligible voice from connecting a speaker to a 5V IO pin and turning it on and off rapidly, based on a recorded waveform. Wouldn't cost any more than a chime. My furnac…

Wait, you don’t have that in your country? Voice-announced floors is pretty much universal in China. In Hong Kong, it’s also done in three languages. The current direction (up or down) of the elevator is also announced. There are exceptions, of course, like really old buildings that don’t have rich incorporated owners to retrofit the elevators.

Nope.

Re: Undo codes for Japanese elevator floor buttons

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Did you merge two comments together?

oh shit I did. I doubt elevators run KDE or have dual core processors lol

If they don’t already I wouldn’t doubt it happening in a few years…
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