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Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by tbrownaw »

avmich wrote: post #27
just_steve_h wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read up on “qualified immunity.” My only slightly exaggerated take is that police on duty can do whatever they want to whomever they want - up to and including killing someone - and not be held liable.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity : In the United States, qualified immunity is a legal principle that grants government officials performing discretionary (optional) functions immunity from civil suits unless the plaintiff shows that the official violated "clearly established statutory or constitutional rights of which a reasonable person would have known".[1] I'm sure killing people violates cle…

"clearly established" doesn't mean what a sane adult would think it means.

A web search should turn up plenty of blogs by lawyers ranting helplessly about whatever the latest absurdity was.

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by wl »

prescriptivist wrote: post #41

Watching this video is a reminder that if we could just enforce a minimum level of cardiovascular health via something like a three mile run time limitation or something like that the police force would naturally weed out people with poor impulse control and probably be overall a more humane and decent force.

There's already a problem with roided-out cops, who aren't going to have any problems passing your hypothetical three mile run test. You're probably thinking in particular about the fat guy by the cake, but I've met guys of similar build in the cycling community who have no problem riding a imperial century in six and a half hours.

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by whoknew1122 »

abetusk wrote: post #15

Can someone tell me about the person dressed in full camo gear and sporting an assault rifle during the raid? Do police departments outsource some of their work to third party contractors for raids like this? Is this person part of some local militia? Shot of the person I'm talking about at 2m11s [0]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oponIfu5L3Y&t=131s

I think the correct term for why he's dressed like that is tacticool.

Gotta make sure you break up your silhouette using a desert camo pattern in the well-known desert of Adams County, Ohio.

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by aaomidi »

bittercynic wrote: post #34
yakkityyak wrote: post #25

I’m telling you, the only way out of this mess is to eliminate qualified immunity, and becoming a cop should entail forfeiting many civil rights in exchange for insurmountable amount of power a cop has. US police is basically a military, and should be treated as such.

Replying to the dead comment below "They’re low skill jobs..." Being a /good/ cop requires very high skills, and it's an unavoidably political job, so I think a union is going to be an essential part of it. I agree that the current situation in much of the USA is really bad, though.

It’s funny because this unionized force is also one of the main anti union forces in the country.

It’s why generally on the left, cops are not considered “valid jobs” to be protected by a union. It’s a state sanctioned violence force.

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by prescriptivist »

wl wrote: post #52
prescriptivist wrote: post #41

Watching this video is a reminder that if we could just enforce a minimum level of cardiovascular health via something like a three mile run time limitation or something like that the police force would naturally weed out people with poor impulse control and probably be overall a more humane and decent force.

There's already a problem with roided-out cops, who aren't going to have any problems passing your hypothetical three mile run test. You're probably thinking in particular about the fat guy by the cake, but I've met guys of similar build in the cycling community who have no problem riding a imperial century in six and a half hours.

Dudes on a cycle with big red swollen faces and gynecomastia aren't going to run 8 minute miles. HGH maybe but that's a different class of PED for different reasons.

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by upsidesinclude »

djur wrote: post #33
upsidesinclude wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very few sheriffs had the guts to publicly state they would not enforce unconstitutional covid mandates. They were unconstitutional. That has been proven. It was illegal for officers of the law to enforce them. I don't think the primary law enforcement problem in the US is Sheriffs. Say what you will about police. These are not the same organizations.

What specific mandates were proven unconstitutional?

Hahahhha

What!? The revisionist history begins

https://eppc.org/publication/bidens-covid-vaccine-mandates-a...

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by upsidesinclude »

etc-hosts wrote: post #32
upsidesinclude wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very few sheriffs had the guts to publicly state they would not enforce unconstitutional covid mandates. They were unconstitutional. That has been proven. It was illegal for officers of the law to enforce them. I don't think the primary law enforcement problem in the US is Sheriffs. Say what you will about police. These are not the same organizations.

Are you talking about mask mandates or vaccine mandates?

Executive orders issued by the Biden administration

https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/90658/supreme-court-rules-...

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by kuhewa »

upsidesinclude wrote: post #56
djur wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What specific mandates were proven unconstitutional?

Hahahhha What!? The revisionist history begins https://eppc.org/publication/bidens-covid-vaccine-mandates-a...

Am I missing something? A 300 word piece by a think tanker?

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by eyelidlessness »

upsidesinclude wrote: post #56
djur wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What specific mandates were proven unconstitutional?

Hahahhha What!? The revisionist history begins https://eppc.org/publication/bidens-covid-vaccine-mandates-a...

Indeed, the mandates began under the previous president.

Re: Will You Help Me Repair My Door [video]

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Post by armada651 »

upsidesinclude wrote: post #57
etc-hosts wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you talking about mask mandates or vaccine mandates?

Executive orders issued by the Biden administration https://www.swfinstitute.org/news/90658/supreme-court-rules-...

The OHSA mandate never went into effect as far as I know. Besides even if it did go into effect it wouldn't be something a sheriff would enforce, as it is up to OHSA to enforce its mandates.
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