Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X • Hacker News Board

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by illumin8 » Fri, Jan 06, 2023, 7:37 PM UTC

dzhiurgis wrote: post #90

illumin8 wrote: post #38

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I have a Model S Plaid and they do have haptic feedback when you press them, but the problem is they require muscle memory to know the exact place to press to get left/right turn signal or horn. I'm 6'1" and the horn is particularly problematic because it requires stretching your right thumb an uncomfortable amount to hit it. It reminds me of using a very large smartphone and trying to use your thumb to reach a tap p…

Do you need to go hand over hand or is single finger enough?

You need to go hand over hand. If you're good you can use the palm of a single hand to rotate the wheel (kind of like those handlebars that people used to put on steering wheels years ago to turn them easier).

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by renewiltord » Fri, Jan 06, 2023, 9:05 PM UTC

StrictDabbler wrote: post #128

renewiltord wrote: post #86

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Jesus the capacitive touch signaling is astoundingly stupid. The horn, though. In decades of driving, I've used my horn maybe once or twice.

Once a pickup truck decided to back out of a failed left turn when the light turned red. Stupid and illegal. I'd remained well behind the stop line, lots of space between us, so I figured he was just using up a little of it to get his nose out of the middle of the intersection and I hesitated. He had no idea my sedan was there and backed right over my hood. I'd never used the horn in that car. It took a firmer press…

Hmm, that's a reasonable scenario. I don't envision I'll ever be in it, but the cost of knowing how to honk is low. Fair point. Convinced.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by renewiltord » Fri, Jan 06, 2023, 9:08 PM UTC

abrawill wrote: post #102

renewiltord wrote: post #86

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Jesus the capacitive touch signaling is astoundingly stupid. The horn, though. In decades of driving, I've used my horn maybe once or twice.

How often have you used your airbag?

About as many times, but the key thing is that the horn is only useful if I'm static since otherwise it's faster for me to evade than honk. I estimate ~0.5 s to 1 s net delay to action if I were to honk, with 0.5 s to 1 s delay in action from other person if they're fast. At a 2 s delay, unless I'm not moving, evasion + braking seems superior. And evasion is made harder while honking. I've had many times where people run red lights in front of me (I live in SF) but I've never honked. It's frequently too late to do anything so I just brake.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by maxerickson » Sat, Jan 07, 2023, 3:41 AM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #60

maxerickson wrote: post #55

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If one has chosen to buy a Tesla, one must choose which to purchase...? It’s pretty clearly an expensive luxury good with robust demand, sooooo what’s the argument? Don’t buy one if you’re not of the means to afford one. If you’ve decided to buy a Tesla, I’m sharing which you’ll get the most value out of. Average price of a new car is $45k-48k btw. 17 million new auto sales per year in the US. $50k-$60k isn’t egregio…

My apologies! I was in the mindset of “if you can only acquire one Tesla [for whatever reason], this is the one you’d want.” There are plenty of other fine EV models out there for a consumer to pick from if a Tesla isn’t right for them.

Are there a lot of people that decide they need a Tesla but aren't sure which one they need?

Seems like a strange approach to buying a car.

Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X

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Post by abrawill » Sat, Jan 07, 2023, 9:53 PM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #133

abrawill wrote: post #102

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How often have you used your airbag?

About as many times, but the key thing is that the horn is only useful if I'm static since otherwise it's faster for me to evade than honk. I estimate ~0.5 s to 1 s net delay to action if I were to honk, with 0.5 s to 1 s delay in action from other person if they're fast. At a 2 s delay, unless I'm not moving, evasion + braking seems superior. And evasion is made harder while honking. I've had many times where people…

The point I was making was that something doesn’t need to be used often for it to be important and for you to want it to be reliable.

Also, the horn is a signal. It allows you to evade and alert other users that something needs their attention. Maybe they need to avoid you while you avoid something else.