May a two stage pressure confirmation would alleviate the issue somehow. You won't have the exact feedback physical buttons give, but you would be able to touch, adjust your finger, then press a little harder to confirm the action. The problem for me with smartphones is that I commit an action as soon as I touch the screen so more often then not I have to aim well at the UI before touching the screen, which sometimes fails.
Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
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Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the proper control to use for interacting with a navigation aid in the UK? Or are you saying that UK law forbids in-car maps? These arguments always end up in this kind of hyper-specific realm where they seem to apply only to Tesla's particular design choices. But, in car maps are everywhere now (and, yes, Tesla's implementation is by far the best), and the natural way you use them is with touch. They absolute…
> What's the proper control to use for interacting with a navigation 1. Voice control 2. Pull over
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Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, I'm fine with digital readouts, as long as there is an analog backup for when you hit that unavoidable software bug. Airplanes get this right: even on the latest Airbus, you still have the basic altitude, air/vertical speed and heading instruments, in a familiar place and configuration, based on boring physical/analog principles, just in case you need them... (and, because they're mandated by FAA [14 CFR 91] and…
Those are included on Airplanes because you need those to make a safe stop (aka Landing) you DO NOT need a speedometer or any dash display at all to safely pull a car to the side of the road and stop. Therefore they should not be mandated under safety regulation, if you have a car with a digital display and it fails you pull your car to the side of the road, put on your hazards and call for a tow to the mechanic Just…
Given that it's unsafe to drive too fast and "too fast" depends greatly on the specific road you're driving on and weather conditions, speedometers are safety equipment.
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#234we didn't need to study this.
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#235What I wonder is: any car company has a CEO that still does their own driving?
I guess the answer is "no".
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
> also the B-brand, which has seen it fit to replace most of the controls in some of its cars with a single multi-function stalk (iDrive, I think?) that isn't good for anything, except as a reason to return your car for a refund This is exaggerated and inaccurate. I have a recent BMW and it has numerous physical controls for climate, radio and various settings like auto-hold or disable engine auto-stop/start. The mul…
The 2023 3-series ditches physical controls except for the volume knob.
It is definitely worse, but there are also dedicated buttons for next/prev, max defrost and max rear defrost as well as the driving mode, parking guidance.
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#237Will regulators act on this? I really want them to, but I feel like they won't and we'll continue to see a trend of car makers taking the cheap route and doing touch screens. At least it feels that way wherever I look into an evening l exciting EV. What do the choices look like in the new car market these days?
Touch screens are only the cheap route so long as you are required to have a backup camera. If you're gonna spend the resources to put a screen in the cost conscious way to do that is to use it for everything you possibly can. Look at 3rd world cars. No screens.
Are backup cameras required now?
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#238Plus you have the element of surprise with buttons. Imagine going down the road trying to find the sub menu for the ejector seat while the bad guy is holding a gun on you.
Been there. It was very awkward.
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#239I would love to see some EU legislation about car dashboards. As an occasional driver of many different brands and types of vehicles, I continue to be amazed at the usability crimes being committed in the name of 'looking cool' (stated reason) as well as 'cost savings' (most likely the real reason). Any function that needs to be invoked or setting that needs to be changed by a reasonable person while driving should h…
> also the B-brand, which has seen it fit to replace most of the controls in some of its cars with a single multi-function stalk (iDrive, I think?) that isn't good for anything, except as a reason to return your car for a refund This is exaggerated and inaccurate. I have a recent BMW and it has numerous physical controls for climate, radio and various settings like auto-hold or disable engine auto-stop/start. The mul…
Ok, but don't you agree that touchscreen controls look very cheap compared to real knobs? Shouldn't that be a factor too, especially in higher end cars?
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#240I would love to see some EU legislation about car dashboards. As an occasional driver of many different brands and types of vehicles, I continue to be amazed at the usability crimes being committed in the name of 'looking cool' (stated reason) as well as 'cost savings' (most likely the real reason). Any function that needs to be invoked or setting that needs to be changed by a reasonable person while driving should h…
When we bought our last car we specifically avoided touchscreen-heavy interfaces. Worst we looked at was Peugeot, which not only had framerate stuttering _on the actual digital dashboard_, the radio turned on loud for us and although the digital volume button was large, you couldn’t just hold it down - you needed to repeatedly tap/lift/tap/lift/… to move it more than just one volume notch. We bought a (non-peugeot) c…
Which brand of car did you end up buying? I've heard Mazda and Toyota were pretty good at keeping essential command controls as physical buttons.