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Why I Won't Hire You

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Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by darrikmazey »

I find it amusing that he starts off with a rant about long resumes. Then half of what follows goes on to talk about all the extensive information you have to communicate on your CV just to get an interview.

I severely disagree with the attitude conveyed. People would do well to remember that a work arrangement is mutually beneficial, always. You take a job because it is in your interest to do so. You are offered a job because it is in their interest to do so. No one employs someone while taking a loss on them, yet companies treat interviewees as if they would be lucky to land such a wonderful job.

If this attitude came out in my interview, I'd immediately walk out. If you're treating me in this way before I even work for you, odds are it's not ever going to get better, only worse.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by mootothemax »

I really don't understand the offence some people seem to be taking from this blog post. The author's listing, directly and to the point, what he wants to see from interviewees.

You might not like the tone of the author's writing, but having sat on the other side of the interview table, it is thoroughly depressing when a candidate tells you "Yeah, I just want a job - money, isn't it?", when you know that the role available is great, and someone who wants to care about will really enjoy it.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by bh42222 »

Be highly skilled.

Be Passionate. If you are bored working in a similar job somewhere else, you’ll be bored with me.

Does the job involve rockets or something like that? No?

Well good luck finding exactly someone who is both highly skilled AND not bored by your job.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by cunac »

astral303 wrote: post #29
benjaminwootton wrote: post #9

This is a very confrontational and adverserial style of interviewing and hiring. I get the impression that author is looking for reasons to make the candidate a 'no hire' rather than using those silly questions such as 'tell me a time when....' as a starting to point to open a two way conversation. My tip is to approach interviews with a positive mind WANTING the candidate to succeed and display their strengths rathe…

Long CV definitely tells me something about the quality of the candidate. If I am interviewing someone fresh out of school, I can forgive a rambling resume. However, for an experienced person, I am looking for some ability to present information concisely. It's like a design skill: can you present a focused view of the most relevant information? If you think that more than two pages of information is required to adve…

One page resume might work for people with not so much experience but it is very hard to put 25+ years of work in one page except obvious "I solve your problems for money" :-). Just plain listing all places of work with dates can be 20+ lines How much insight can you get from 1995-1996 Company X , Senior Consultant , project Y ??

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by matwood »

zalew wrote: post #44
asolove wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(This post is not defending the original article, just discussing this specific comment.) Having never read an HR for Dummies book, and as a pure technical interviewer, I still frequently ask this question. The point is to not think of it as an adversarial question, like I'm going to mark you off for a bad answer. It's simply to know how you want your career to proceed. Do you want to be an expert at some specific pa…

I am glad that there are people like you for whom 'running your own company' isn't a bad answer . I think most people are afraid to tell the truth and choose the cliche path about climbing the ladder of success in company X, being afraid of rejection. And to be honest: how many companies out there want someone who tells them right away that experience and money obtained during their job is only to quit on the first m…

I am glad that there are people like you for whom 'running your own company' isn't a bad answer.

I answered this way in a recent interview (and got the job). The company owners response was "I think working with us will help you learn a lot about starting your own company." At that point I really wanted to work with them.

And to be honest: how many companies out there want someone who tells them right away that experience and money obtained during their job is only to quit on the first moment they feel it's enough to run something on their own?

Lots of people say it, few do it. It also depends on the job. A job at a small company/startup needs self starters, jack of all trades kind of people. These same people are often the ones who want to do their own thing one day.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by cunac »

mootothemax wrote: post #52

I really don't understand the offence some people seem to be taking from this blog post. The author's listing, directly and to the point, what he wants to see from interviewees. You might not like the tone of the author's writing, but having sat on the other side of the interview table, it is thoroughly depressing when a candidate tells you "Yeah, I just want a job - money, isn't it?", when you know that the role ava…

It is all perspective , you like to think that role is great but maybe is not so much as you think. Maybe you just don't know better

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by drone »

It seems somewhere along the line, every person who is aspiring to become someone great in the industry gets the wrong cue. They see some conceited individual writing blog posts about how great they are, and they assume mimicking this style of writing will make them equally as great. The truth is: most of us barely tolerate this attitude from those who are truly great because we don't have much choice. Until you are truly great (i.e. on the cover of time magazine, and solving the largest problems we all face with ease), you would do better to present yourself with humility.

That you thought it appropriate to write a blog post with simply the title of "Why I won't hire you," is the reason "Why I will never interview with you." (And, for many others as well, I'm sure.) It has little to do with the content (although in fact, the content only gets worse with conceit and self-inflating statements) and everything to do with your attitude.

Who wants to work for someone who already thinks they're better than the majority of humanity? I'd want to work for a manager who knows how to communicate effectively without being abrasive, and who has excellent skills in resolving conflict and helping their team grow to their maximum potential. Everything about your blog post suggest the opposite combined with such a level of hubris, that I could only imagine working for you would be the worst job I've ever had.

Good luck with that hiring thing.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by bradleyland »

GiraffeNecktie wrote: post #22
andreadallera wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

csomar's response is, IMHO, the right reaction to the blog post author's rambling. What I've found out by experience is that usually recruiters with such restricting requirements aren't ready to back up said requests with the appropriate money. He wants top notch, highly motivated talent. How much is he willing to pay? That's definitely a part of the equation but he's not even mentioning it. If he offers 200-300% the…

A couple of points: - I don't get that he's asking for the moon. He just wants competent people who have a reason to work beyond money and aren't going to be a PITA to him and his team. That seems pretty fundamental to me. Why should it command double or triple an average salary? I don't get it. - The market will decide. If what he's looking for is rare, he'll have to pay more to get it. If it's not, he'll pay the go…

If you want to hire talented people who will carry your company to the top, tone is important. It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

This title could have been written in inverted form: "Why I Will Hire You". Whether someone uses exclusionary or inclusionary principles says a lot about their character to me. It's always good to look out for yourself, and I don't advocate hiring incompetent people, but I'm really thrilled with the people that work around me, and I would never talk to them like this guy does. Never.

Re: Why I Won't Hire You

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Post by asolove »

zalew wrote: post #44
asolove wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(This post is not defending the original article, just discussing this specific comment.) Having never read an HR for Dummies book, and as a pure technical interviewer, I still frequently ask this question. The point is to not think of it as an adversarial question, like I'm going to mark you off for a bad answer. It's simply to know how you want your career to proceed. Do you want to be an expert at some specific pa…

I am glad that there are people like you for whom 'running your own company' isn't a bad answer . I think most people are afraid to tell the truth and choose the cliche path about climbing the ladder of success in company X, being afraid of rejection. And to be honest: how many companies out there want someone who tells them right away that experience and money obtained during their job is only to quit on the first m…

This is how I got hired. The manager talked with me for a while, and then looked me straight in the eye and said: in three years, you need to either be a technical lead or start your own company or you're going to be miserable. If you pick which of those paths you want, we'll help you get there through the work you do here.

So honestly, the question is: would you want to work for a company that wants you to lie to them? or a company that wants you to grow and roots for you when you do?

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