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What is government for, if not for solving the issues of the populace it is governing?
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I am generally pleased with the EU's approach to defending me against pollution and traffic accidents.
Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
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Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#172I’d like to offer a possibly controversial alternative viewpoint on this. On a longer time horizon than just the past few years, we saw the introduction of touchscreens for drivers way back in the early 2000s. We just called them smartphones. Before that, rush hour commuters could be spotted reading newspapers, shaving, applying makeup, and eating breakfast while driving. All of those pose real dangers to themselves…
> The solution, in my opinion, is not about the controls in the vehicle. Rather, it’s about removing the distracted driver from the equation altogether and finally mastering the immense challenge of truly autonomous vehicles. I agree with your overall premise, but this is a strange conclusion. If human drivers are the problem and they cannot be trusted to drive without distractions, it would be far easier and cheaper…
The public transit vs individual car ownership discussion is long running and a bit separate. My conclusion was predicated on the assumption that for all the reasons we still have individual car ownership today, we will see that remain as such through the autonomous transition.
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#173I’d like to offer a possibly controversial alternative viewpoint on this. On a longer time horizon than just the past few years, we saw the introduction of touchscreens for drivers way back in the early 2000s. We just called them smartphones. Before that, rush hour commuters could be spotted reading newspapers, shaving, applying makeup, and eating breakfast while driving. All of those pose real dangers to themselves…
It's an interesting comment, but to take it at face value... cars back in 2000 didn't force good drivers to operate unsafe bullshit for mission critical controls.
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
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Those are not things you need to do while driving. There’s no reason why, say, garage door pairing can’t use a button like my 2006 Subaru does for the one time most people will do it in the life of the vehicle. Checking a calendar is distracted driving and should be illegal.
> Checking a calendar is distracted driving and should be illegal. Tesla vehicles, as well as iOS and Android car UIs, have functionality for navigating to the next appointment in your calendar, if the appointment has a physical address. For a lot of folks, e.g., salespeople and service crews, this is a godsend.
You use this before starting the journey, or after pulling over if the destination must change part way through the journey.
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#175Next study: water is in fact wet!
Re: Study finds that buttons in cars are safer and quicker to use than touchscreens
#176I’d like to offer a possibly controversial alternative viewpoint on this. On a longer time horizon than just the past few years, we saw the introduction of touchscreens for drivers way back in the early 2000s. We just called them smartphones. Before that, rush hour commuters could be spotted reading newspapers, shaving, applying makeup, and eating breakfast while driving. All of those pose real dangers to themselves…
I recommend Adam Something on YouTube. He speaks about this and truly autonomous vehicles frequently on his channel. If you go watch a few of his videos, you'll see we already have the technology to remove the distracted driver, and in fact the act of driving from the equation altogether.
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#177As a junior systems engineer, I thought touchscreens and iPhone-like animations would be really neat, and give pilots more context, for helicopter GUIs. My senior human factors engineer told me no way. I begrudgingly agreed.
Then I tried riding in a helicopter. Oh my gosh my eyes were opened. Real buttons. No animation. Everything else is vibrating and busy enough already.
Human factors engineers working on airplanes and helicopters have known touchscreens aren’t good for this for decades.
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You do know that Touch Screen got included in Cars due to government regulations right? The government mandated Backup Camera's and once you had to put in a screen to serve as display for the backup camera then it only makes since to use that screen for more and more things This is yet another unintended consequence of government regulations, where by now people want to use government regulation to "fix" the problems…
Nobody ever demanded touch screens. Cars already had navigation built in that had no touch screens nor a need for them. Car companies choosing cheap, substandard designs to save a buck is something the car companies decided on. The market being a race to the bottom is visible in every single space where only a few companies control an entire industry. From supermarkets to cars, from soft drinks to tech, when competit…
>>where only a few companies control an entire industry.
I feel like we are now into the absurd... You know what kills competition. REGULATION.
Every industry where you can cite limited competition I can tell you the regulations that killed that competition.
Unregulated industries have LOTS of innovation and competition. Regulated industries have slow innovation and no competition.
Free market work because of competition, no competition no free market.
>>Car companies have started to move to electric not because Tesla's cars were such a good business model but because governments are moving to ban internal combustion engines somewhere within the next decade;
This is a complete revisionist history, and it is very very very very unlikely any nation will actually ban ICE cars in the next decade.
While I will not deny regulation played some role in the speed of transition, it is unlikely that role would be more than moving the needle more 5 years ahead of where it would have naturally gone anyway.
Electric cars where being made long before the Tesla, Tesla simply timed the market correctly at the same time technology got to the point where an BEV was even possible.
To put 100% of the transition to BEV on government is simply false, and in fact I can make a good case that government accelerating the natural progression is in the long run going to be HARMFUL and may even set back the transition in many ways
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Like the iPhone for example? Or maybe the Porsche 911 GT3 RS? Markets have a lot of segments. Government should regulate the minimum absolute necessity. Like seatbelts... who were ironically a market invention/idea first.
Sure, and precisely what the "minimum necessary" entails is up for debate. The EU just believes that minimum to be higher than you do.
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What's the proper control to use for interacting with a navigation aid in the UK? Or are you saying that UK law forbids in-car maps? These arguments always end up in this kind of hyper-specific realm where they seem to apply only to Tesla's particular design choices. But, in car maps are everywhere now (and, yes, Tesla's implementation is by far the best), and the natural way you use them is with touch. They absolute…
> What's the proper control to use for interacting with a navigation 1. Voice control 2. Pull over
The only navigation thing I can do that feels safe while driving is “Hey Siri, take me to XYX.” Any non-verbal way to interact will take your eyes and hands away from driving far too much.