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Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Hey Marcus! Super cool to see another fellow Minecraft-jumpstarted developer. I got into programming way back in 2013 with Minecraft mods and then Bukkit/Spigot plugins. > I decided to look for open Developer positions, to work with a team of experienced developers so I can learn even faster. Seeing as you're in Europe and not in the U.S. (with exorbitant tuition costs), I would actually recommend against skipping ou…

Meh, I'll go against the grain and say I'm happy I started programming in my teens, and got my first job at 19. It's harder to learn university-level curricula by yourself, but not impossible, and it is better to get a headstart in a field where young talent is preferred over senior like tech. If you want to be real good at inverting a binary tree and get a FAANG job ASAP, choose the academic route. If you love progr…

The university experience is whatever people choose to make of it. The people who complain most loudly about how college was a waste for them tend to be people who took no initiative of their own and expected to simply be spit out of some pipeline of courses into a top tier job. OP is clearly not one of those people, and has an internally driven passion for learning, pursued of their volition. That doesn't mean OP is somehow beyond college, it means they are an excelent candidate for it.

The combination of breadth and depth of knowledge and experience available at universities is unmatched anywhere in the world. OP may find themselves more interested in developing neural interfaces, working on processor hardware architectures, designing next generation microscopy systems for biology, or a hundred other things. It's true that there are other entry points into those areas that don't involve being on a campus, but a good university provides efficient entry points into all of them. This is especially true for students who set up independent study courses for themselves, start/run student organizations, talk to professors about their research, and seek out research and project opportunities during summers.

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Hey Marcus! Super cool to see another fellow Minecraft-jumpstarted developer. I got into programming way back in 2013 with Minecraft mods and then Bukkit/Spigot plugins. > I decided to look for open Developer positions, to work with a team of experienced developers so I can learn even faster. Seeing as you're in Europe and not in the U.S. (with exorbitant tuition costs), I would actually recommend against skipping ou…

You can also work during college. No reason the two have to be mutually exclusive, especially now that remote has become so much more common.

I used to work half days and whole days whenever my schedule would allow.

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Hey Marcus! Super cool to see another fellow Minecraft-jumpstarted developer. I got into programming way back in 2013 with Minecraft mods and then Bukkit/Spigot plugins. > I decided to look for open Developer positions, to work with a team of experienced developers so I can learn even faster. Seeing as you're in Europe and not in the U.S. (with exorbitant tuition costs), I would actually recommend against skipping ou…

All knowelage today can be found on the web. And you will never have any use of 95% of the course. If you get emplyed you will find that you already know more then the people with an engendering degree. But I still recommend getting a engineering degree for two reason 1) those with a degree earns 25% more then you because they can get more job offers 2) university/college is good for your social life. So if you alrea…

The benefit of formal education (beside easier visa, easier access to the hiring pipelines and meeting new like-minded people) are the tests.

I was struck so many times thinking I understood something (either through lectures or self-learning) to be proved wrong by the exams or talking to other people who studied the same.

It's no wonder that TAOCP is mostly about exercises. But, the algorithms are easy to self-test for understanding and knowledge. The other subjects -- not so much. Formal education helps here.

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Hey Marcus! Super cool to see another fellow Minecraft-jumpstarted developer. I got into programming way back in 2013 with Minecraft mods and then Bukkit/Spigot plugins. > I decided to look for open Developer positions, to work with a team of experienced developers so I can learn even faster. Seeing as you're in Europe and not in the U.S. (with exorbitant tuition costs), I would actually recommend against skipping ou…

I didn’t go to college due to circumstances. I don’t regret and will make the same choice given the same circumstances.

But if you can, I think it’s the safest decision to go.

People in this thread give a bunch of reasons, which I challenge:

1. Immigration: I’m 25 from a shithole country. I have lived and worked in Asia, Europe and America. A bit more difficulty, but nothing major. Surely with a German passport this wouldn’t be a biggie.

2. Learning: Admittedly, the internet has a lot of noise. But there are good resources like MIT OCW, teachyourselfcs, etc. I will argue some universities are worst than some of the online resources.

3. Social connection: This wouldn’t be a problem if you have hobbies, community and a life outside work. You can always make life long friends.

4. You will learn or experience something vague: Please be specific? Usually, there are other ways to learn or experience these things.

The biggest issue I had to deal with was I thought all the college folks were better than me. But that went away when I joined bigger companies and started interviewing and working with college folks. They were not special.

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Coded throughout my teenage years, didn’t go to college and that was one of the best decisions of my life.

A lot of very hard things of life were pressed upon me a lot faster than if I had stayed in the candy world of education, like: “who am I? What do I really want to do besides making money?” And yes, indeed getting visas can be 10x harder, but with the right skills and lawyers you can make it work. And honestly, if you’re going to do something for 3-5 years of your life, just to get a piece of paper to go somewhere, that’s a significant chunk of your life consumed… especially in an age where you can work anywhere on well paid exciting opportunities.

Bottom line is that: everybody is always going to give their biased opinion. Most people who have gone to school will say that school is great. Dropping out is not for everyone. Not everybody has equal mental and emotional strength. For some people, it might be dangerous, they may not know how to find themselves in the world at such a young age. But if you have confidence, courage, skills and trust your ability to grow up faster than avg, then I fully celebrate you my man!

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Hey Marcus! Super cool to see another fellow Minecraft-jumpstarted developer. I got into programming way back in 2013 with Minecraft mods and then Bukkit/Spigot plugins. > I decided to look for open Developer positions, to work with a team of experienced developers so I can learn even faster. Seeing as you're in Europe and not in the U.S. (with exorbitant tuition costs), I would actually recommend against skipping ou…

I didn’t go to college due to circumstances. I don’t regret and will make the same choice given the same circumstances. But if you can, I think it’s the safest decision to go. People in this thread give a bunch of reasons, which I challenge: 1. Immigration: I’m 25 from a shithole country. I have lived and worked in Asia, Europe and America. A bit more difficulty, but nothing major. Surely with a German passport this…

> Surely with a German passport this wouldn’t be a biggie.

The U.S. PR lottery couldn't care less. Neither many other non-EU countries.

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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I've seen a lot of discussion about my choice of looking for a job directly after Highschool. Reasons against college - I recently visited a College Conference and wans't really impressed by any of them, mainly because their presented curriculum where basic js, css, html, react, easy leetcode algorithms which I already know - I don't really happy with my current position in School, where I sit and listen to the teach…

An additional pro of university is that it can teach you things that you might never learn working, and it let's you "test" your interests without having to work in a specific field.

This is invaluable as time will start slipping in front of you faster and faster, and soon you won't have time anymore to experiment and try new things.

As a general advice, I'd tell you to give college a try, and apply to something that is only tangentially close to coding. Keep working on your startup and keep improving your CS skills as you have been doing, and in College try new things. Whether you want to be a coder or an entrepreneur, you'll require many different skills. A diverse study plan that includes a bit of different subjects (economics, law and alikes) can be very useful.

Think of what you have achieved in only 17 years, and then try to picture where you'll be in another 20. And what the world will look like in 20 years. Your most valuable asset is and will be your brain, so the most you can develop it, the better.

Disclaimer: I'm a University professor

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Hey Marcus! Super cool to see another fellow Minecraft-jumpstarted developer. I got into programming way back in 2013 with Minecraft mods and then Bukkit/Spigot plugins. > I decided to look for open Developer positions, to work with a team of experienced developers so I can learn even faster. Seeing as you're in Europe and not in the U.S. (with exorbitant tuition costs), I would actually recommend against skipping ou…

I didn’t go to college due to circumstances. I don’t regret and will make the same choice given the same circumstances. But if you can, I think it’s the safest decision to go. People in this thread give a bunch of reasons, which I challenge: 1. Immigration: I’m 25 from a shithole country. I have lived and worked in Asia, Europe and America. A bit more difficulty, but nothing major. Surely with a German passport this…

You're 25... You could still go to college. If you're in Europe I would recommend it (if you wanted to).

Re: Show HN: I spent 2 years building Tablane as a 17-year-old

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Awesome job! I noticed two issues on your landing page which I didn't see mentioned yet.

The first link in the nav bar points to the frontpage but it's not shown as active and that isn't apparent from the link text either, so it seems like a broken link.

The "Open app" & "Get started" links break the browsers back button. These are the first links I'd click, and at this point I have no idea what I'm even signing in to so I'd want to go back and explore a bit before... but since the back button doesn't work, I'd just close the tab and forget about it :)

I would also throw a lock icon on the button to signal the fact that login is required.

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