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Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account

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To add to the confusion: A Meta account is not a Facebook account. Meta accounts are specifically to get access to Meta's metaverse. So basically it's a newer version of the old Oculus accounts. For Facebook you still need a separate Facebook account.

I’m OK with that. Separation means I can dump either at any time.

Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account

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post #14

If you are in Europe, this is likely illegal. But I don't think anybody has deep pockets enough to try to bring that to court.

Isn’t it GDPR that is requiring them to delete this data in the first place?

Of course not. Why would GDPR require a company to delete the records of who owns what inside their ecosystem?

Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account

#23

To add to the confusion: A Meta account is not a Facebook account. Meta accounts are specifically to get access to Meta's metaverse. So basically it's a newer version of the old Oculus accounts. For Facebook you still need a separate Facebook account.

I’m OK with that. Separation means I can dump either at any time.

I'm ok with the separation too, I don't see what my gaming device has to do with my social media [1], but what annoys me is the lack of clarity: Facebook, vs Meta vs Oculus, which is which and what is being forcibly upgraded and why? I mean, I can find out by reading their docs and press releases or whatnot, but why should I? If it's mandatory, just make the process automatic, with no guesswork on my part.

[1] it's bad enough that many of my facebook hobby groups are public, and therefore every comment I make in one of them is likely to get spammed to my family, friends and coworkers who have zero interest in my hobbies or what I have to say about them. Imagine if HN and facebook were linked, and every comment I made here was spammed to my mum's fb feed.

Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account

#24
...but why?

I was happy to switch from my original Oculus/Facebook account to a Meta account back in October when I was prompted to, I never wanted the (originally mandatory) Facebook association in the first place.

But why wouldn't Meta just migrate these accounts automatically? I'm baffled by how the pros could possibly outweigh the cons for Meta here.

For people who don't touch their Quest for a year and a half that was associated with an e-mail account they don't check regularly, and then decide to dust the Quest off to play a game when their niece or nephew visits... and discover all their games are gone?

What the hell? The resulting hatred towards Meta is going to cost more in the long run than any extra money resulting in re-buying a couple of games.

I usually feel like I can understand when companies take user-hostile decisions because it's still easy to see how it makes sense for the company/investors. But here, I'm utterly stumped.

Nevertheless, this is where there need to be laws around this kind of thing. It should be illegal to delete digital purchases or delete accounts like this, end of story. Consumer protection laws are desperately needed here.

Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account

#25

...but why? I was happy to switch from my original Oculus/Facebook account to a Meta account back in October when I was prompted to, I never wanted the (originally mandatory) Facebook association in the first place. But why wouldn't Meta just migrate these accounts automatically? I'm baffled by how the pros could possibly outweigh the cons for Meta here. For people who don't touch their Quest for a year and a half th…

Oh. Just learning about this now. I haven't fired up the quest (or Go) I'm about a year. Suppose I'll probably have to side load whatever's been removed.... Once I eventually fire up the machine again

Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account

#26

...but why? I was happy to switch from my original Oculus/Facebook account to a Meta account back in October when I was prompted to, I never wanted the (originally mandatory) Facebook association in the first place. But why wouldn't Meta just migrate these accounts automatically? I'm baffled by how the pros could possibly outweigh the cons for Meta here. For people who don't touch their Quest for a year and a half th…

Oh. Just learning about this now. I haven't fired up the quest (or Go) I'm about a year. Suppose I'll probably have to side load whatever's been removed.... Once I eventually fire up the machine again

The Go can be unlocked:

https://developer.oculus.com/blog/unlocking-oculus-go/

Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account

#29

To add to the confusion: A Meta account is not a Facebook account. Meta accounts are specifically to get access to Meta's metaverse. So basically it's a newer version of the old Oculus accounts. For Facebook you still need a separate Facebook account.

I’m OK with that. Separation means I can dump either at any time.

I wish it had come before I had to dump my old Oculus account to dump my Facebook account. I will not miss the ~$100 that those games cost me, but I will miss not having the continuity of memory they represented.

Re: Tell HN: Oculus will delete purchases if you don’t switch to a meta account

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t it GDPR that is requiring them to delete this data in the first place?

Of course not. Why would GDPR require a company to delete the records of who owns what inside their ecosystem?

Because GDPR puts restrictions on how inactive or deprecated account data can be kept - to prevent mining of forgotten accounts I suspect was the intention
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