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MT-Propeller 11 blade propeller delivers 15% increase in static thrust

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Re: MT-Propeller 11 blade propeller delivers 15% increase in static thrust

#11
Somewhat related thread [0] from last month about the "tipless" Sharrow MX-1 prop [1] which achieves efficiency gains of between 9-15% over comparable 3-blade propeller designs. They started out working on an aircraft propeller but pivoted to a watercraft prop.

0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33949895

1: https://www.mby.com/gear/sharrow-mx-1-tipless-propeller-1101...

Re: MT-Propeller 11 blade propeller delivers 15% increase in static thrust

#12

I'd imagine that, just like in other industries, there are tons of metrics (or counter-metrics) that are also important. Some that come to mind are efficiency, noise, vibration, cost, maintenance, stall characteristics, RPM requirements, weight, etc etc. From some fiddling with RC quads, I remember that increasing the number of blades does increase thrust, but at the cost of efficiency and several other parameters.

My understanding as well. You increase on metric and make some other one worse. In the end it is complex process of finding some balance between these.

Not that there isn't some improvements that can be made like have been done with improved materials(less weight), computer design and so on in more complex engines.

Re: MT-Propeller 11 blade propeller delivers 15% increase in static thrust

#13

Somewhat related thread [0] from last month about the "tipless" Sharrow MX-1 prop [1] which achieves efficiency gains of between 9-15% over comparable 3-blade propeller designs. They started out working on an aircraft propeller but pivoted to a watercraft prop. 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33949895 1: https://www.mby.com/gear/sharrow-mx-1-tipless-propeller-1101...

I immediately questioned cavitation and that link delivered. That's INCREDIBLE. The only issue is the price of course. That looks like a perfect candidate for 3D printing and then machining the final part vs billet.

Re: MT-Propeller 11 blade propeller delivers 15% increase in static thrust

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post #4

Why are they only using odd numbers of blades?

Generally odd numbers of blades are better for vibration.

I know that in wind turbines they are favored because it reduces the effect of the blade crossing the tower. When one of the blades in a three blade wind turbine crosses over the tower the force on it is reduced (since the wind is already slowed by the presence of the tower). The other two blades are in maximum loading, but balance much of their forces against each other reducing the bending moment on the turbine shaft.

Re: MT-Propeller 11 blade propeller delivers 15% increase in static thrust

#19
post #4

Why are they only using odd numbers of blades?

Easier to balance; if everything is even, you need to balance two blades to counter one misbehaviour, and do so perfectly to avoid introducing new misbehaviours. (They’re prime for resonance reasons. I don’t remember what, specifically.)

Why would they be easier to balance?

The hand-waving about resonance also pervades that reddit "explanation" thread which doesn't explain anything about what prime or odd numbers of blades have to do with resonance in a single propeller.

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