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Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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You realize there are entire towns and villages whose lives depend on this tourism, right? I'm not saying it's a perfect solution to fly snow in, but you can't discount the impact this has on the population if the resorts close down.

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Is not dumping some snow with a helicopter going to prevent the sea levels from rising? Or would that require something on the scale of banning all aviation forever?

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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Wait until you hear about air conditioning.

Air conditioning is relatively efficient compared to driving a 2000 pound steel box 30 miles down the road (and back) to buy eggs.

Maybe an air-cooled VW Beetle or 1980s Golf/Rabbit weighed that little, but a modern car is more like 1.5 to 2x that.

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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This page seems fake to me. No contact informations. All "follow us pages" such as twitter, facebook etc link to the root of the page.

Search for Gstaad Schnee Helikopter and you will find plenty of German sources for this news. HN doesn't accept foreign language submissions, though.

The article is okayish, even if its exaggarated and misleading. But as a swiss i would not trust this page.

The article is written as if the whole sky resort looks as in the picture. While they actually tried to fix some patches of the route which had to few snow. Usually they fix it by moving snow around with a plow. Which they can not because the snow is to thin currently. Also they aborted after trying 9 times, because it was not economical.

I totally agree to the absurdity to transport snow with a helicopter. However it's a big difference between what people expect when reading this article to what really happened.

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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Am I right in thinking that Gstaad is like the Aspen of Switzerland, one of the richest ski resort towns? Is this why they can get away with helicoptering in snow?

Switzerland is a rich country, and just about every ski resort is outrageously expensive (think 14 euro for a beer, 35 for a pizza, 150+/night for a hotel, 50+/day slopes). So financially, they can definitely get away with helicoptering in snow.

The most exclusive ones are probably St. Moritz, Zermatt and Lech, not so sure about Gstaad.

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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You realize there are entire towns and villages whose lives depend on this tourism, right? I'm not saying it's a perfect solution to fly snow in, but you can't discount the impact this has on the population if the resorts close down.

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Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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Global warming being caused in part by internal combustion engines and aviation results in less snow for skiers... Solution? Chopper some more snow in to counter the effects of I.C.E's and aviation. Huhmmmm.... Does anyone else spot a dichotomy in thinking here?

> Huhmmmm.... Does anyone else spot a dichotomy in thinking here?

No because we've accepted rich flying their private jets and lecturing everyone about how they are causing climate change by driving their suv to drop off kids at school.

This isn't any weirder than that.

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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Am I right in thinking that Gstaad is like the Aspen of Switzerland, one of the richest ski resort towns? Is this why they can get away with helicoptering in snow?

There are a lot of Aspens in Switzerland. But seriously, I hope there will be consequences. Everyone in my bubble disapproves this strongly. Yes, there is not much snow. Yes, it is crippling snow tourism. But I can't imagine there are a lot of Swiss people who think that flying in snow is justified in any way.

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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This page seems fake to me. No contact informations. All "follow us pages" such as twitter, facebook etc link to the root of the page.

SRF (reputable) and Hauptstadt (very local, focused on Bern, I'm not familiar, but doesn't look made-up) report on it as well.

As absurd as it is to see (I had my first ski lessons on those very slopes), I think it checks out.

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/wegen-gruener-pisten-gstaad-...

https://www.hauptstadt.be/a/helikopterfluege-hauptstadt-brie...

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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At what point does human enjoyment become waste of energy? And so what if energy is wasted? Is greenhouse gas the problem? Paradoxically, global warming benefited Europe this winter, reducing the influence of the Russian gas embargo. In any case, European countries have lower greenhouse gas emissions per citizen than, say, the US or Australia (since we actually have emissions taxes). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis…

> At what point does human enjoyment become waste of energy? At the point it causes eventual human extinction.

so the problem solves itself? Why should i care if humans go extinct or not.
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