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Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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Global warming being caused in part by internal combustion engines and aviation results in less snow for skiers... Solution? Chopper some more snow in to counter the effects of I.C.E's and aviation. Huhmmmm.... Does anyone else spot a dichotomy in thinking here?

And you can add the water and power that was wasted before that...snowcanon's...bring up food and beer so the skiers can eat a schnitzel and drink a beer there, and about 70% come with their cars, and all the helicopter flights and explosives to prevent avalanches, oh and the nightly Snowcats to make the slope beautiful. It's a massive waste of energy overall.

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Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

#32
post #17

Global warming being caused in part by internal combustion engines and aviation results in less snow for skiers... Solution? Chopper some more snow in to counter the effects of I.C.E's and aviation. Huhmmmm.... Does anyone else spot a dichotomy in thinking here?

Wait until you hear about air conditioning.

Air conditioning is relatively efficient compared to driving a 2000 pound steel box 30 miles down the road (and back) to buy eggs.

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

#33

Global warming being caused in part by internal combustion engines and aviation results in less snow for skiers... Solution? Chopper some more snow in to counter the effects of I.C.E's and aviation. Huhmmmm.... Does anyone else spot a dichotomy in thinking here?

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Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

#34

Global warming being caused in part by internal combustion engines and aviation results in less snow for skiers... Solution? Chopper some more snow in to counter the effects of I.C.E's and aviation. Huhmmmm.... Does anyone else spot a dichotomy in thinking here?

But, what about the races?! According to the organizer, this was absolutely justified because of the... added value! > “Of course it sounds incredibly stupid to transport snow by helicopter. But that was the only way we could save the slalom and combined races. The effort was absolutely justified.” He referred to the very high added value for the entire region.

They says "absolutely justified", no reason for distrust. Money talks.

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

#35

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There is like 115,000 commercial flights a day. Complaining about the impact of celeb x or one off flights is just silly.

But each of those flights carries 100+ passengers + tons of cargo. Does taylor swift or ursula von der leyn really need a private plane for traveling 50km? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/02/revealed-a...

I live near a small airfield and many aircraft travel 0km. They takeoff, fly around, and land in the same place just for fun!

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

#36
post #19
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you can add the water and power that was wasted before that...snowcanon's...bring up food and beer so the skiers can eat a schnitzel and drink a beer there, and about 70% come with their cars, and all the helicopter flights and explosives to prevent avalanches, oh and the nightly Snowcats to make the slope beautiful. It's a massive waste of energy overall.

At what point does human enjoyment become waste of energy? And so what if energy is wasted? Is greenhouse gas the problem? Paradoxically, global warming benefited Europe this winter, reducing the influence of the Russian gas embargo. In any case, European countries have lower greenhouse gas emissions per citizen than, say, the US or Australia (since we actually have emissions taxes). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis…

There was a nice comic that expressed things in terms of horse-power or "invisible slaves" working for you.

When your enjoyment requires the equivalent of thousands working for you, and it is from a resource that is finite and non-renewable, then it is probably wasteful.

Found it: https://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comic/energy-slaves/

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

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post #33

Global warming being caused in part by internal combustion engines and aviation results in less snow for skiers... Solution? Chopper some more snow in to counter the effects of I.C.E's and aviation. Huhmmmm.... Does anyone else spot a dichotomy in thinking here?

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Think again.

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

#38

Global warming being caused in part by internal combustion engines and aviation results in less snow for skiers... Solution? Chopper some more snow in to counter the effects of I.C.E's and aviation. Huhmmmm.... Does anyone else spot a dichotomy in thinking here?

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Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

#39
post #28
post #8

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You realize there are entire towns and villages whose lives depend on this tourism, right? I'm not saying it's a perfect solution to fly snow in, but you can't discount the impact this has on the population if the resorts close down.

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Who cares about Bangladesh ? Without tourism _we_ will die. /s

Re: Switzerland: snow flown in by helicopter in attempt to keep ski slopes open

#40
post #19
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you can add the water and power that was wasted before that...snowcanon's...bring up food and beer so the skiers can eat a schnitzel and drink a beer there, and about 70% come with their cars, and all the helicopter flights and explosives to prevent avalanches, oh and the nightly Snowcats to make the slope beautiful. It's a massive waste of energy overall.

At what point does human enjoyment become waste of energy? And so what if energy is wasted? Is greenhouse gas the problem? Paradoxically, global warming benefited Europe this winter, reducing the influence of the Russian gas embargo. In any case, European countries have lower greenhouse gas emissions per citizen than, say, the US or Australia (since we actually have emissions taxes). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis…

> At what point does human enjoyment become waste of energy?

At the point it causes eventual human extinction.

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