The yoke only makes sense if you use FSD beta 24/7
Hmm, I wonder if that's exactly when I'd want a conventional steering wheel, when I have to quickly override the computer.
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Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#12I have an S with a yoke and prefer it to a round steering wheel. 95% of the time it’s better: you can see the entire dashboard and your body can feel the angle of the wheel instinctively. 5% of the time it’s worse, during low speed maneuvers.
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you set out to reinvent many of aspects that are conventional of a complex machine like a car, I’ll forgive you for not getting 100% of them right.
A single u-turn should have been all Tesla needed to understand how terrible an idea yoke is. You try arm over arm, then crash the car.
There are other hand methods when using a yoke that work just as well. I think they assumed people would adapt. Considering it's already an EV maybe they thought people would be more willing to try new things.
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you set out to reinvent many of aspects that are conventional of a complex machine like a car, I’ll forgive you for not getting 100% of them right.
A single u-turn should have been all Tesla needed to understand how terrible an idea yoke is. You try arm over arm, then crash the car.
I have over 25k miles in an S with a yoke, there was one day where I was exiting a parking lot and the yoke was upside down and the turn signals buttons were backwards that was a slight annoyance. Other than that I have never had an issue turning with the yoke and wouldn't want to go back to a wheel that blocks the instrument cluster constantly.
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#15The yoke only makes sense if you use FSD beta 24/7
Actually isn't it more annoying? FSD will be turning the wheel a lot more than regular autopilot, but you still have to keep hands on the wheel frequently or it will disengage. It will only be better when hands on wheel is no longer required.
Some new FSD systems only require that you look forward. There is a camera that monitors your eyes
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#16The yoke only makes sense if you use FSD beta 24/7
Actually isn't it more annoying? FSD will be turning the wheel a lot more than regular autopilot, but you still have to keep hands on the wheel frequently or it will disengage. It will only be better when hands on wheel is no longer required.
You don't have to keep your hands on the yoke during hard turns with the FSD beta. Even with a wheel, it would be hard to signal the right amount of pressure without disengaging when their is a lot of movement going on.
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#17I have an S with a yoke and prefer it to a round steering wheel. 95% of the time it’s better: you can see the entire dashboard and your body can feel the angle of the wheel instinctively. 5% of the time it’s worse, during low speed maneuvers.
> low speed maneuvers
AKA maneuvers. Driving on the highway in a straight line is not a maneuver.
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#18My S was wrecked in a crash (I was unhurt luckily) and instead of replacing it with a new S I bought a Y instead, solely because of the yoke with the touch controls instead of a round wheel with stalks. I can't be the only person who reacted like that, because Tesla wouldn't even let you test drive a car with the yoke last I checked.
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#19I have an S with a yoke and prefer it to a round steering wheel. 95% of the time it’s better: you can see the entire dashboard and your body can feel the angle of the wheel instinctively. 5% of the time it’s worse, during low speed maneuvers.
You should be able to see the entire dash board with any steering wheel
Re: Tesla finally breaks and offers round steering wheel on Model S/X
#20Absolutely horrible design was the yoke. Almost crashed into neighbours' car due to it. Had to dump the car itself since I hated the steering so much. Who came up with such a dumb idea. This is as dumb as the touchbar on the mac pros.