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Re: GoatCounter: Open-source hosted/self-hosted web analytics

#33
Lots of people making open source web analytics recently, Plausible, Fathom, Umami, and now GoatCounter. I have one of these for my sites but I honestly don't really look at it, it's not critical really.

Now I was thinking of making an analytics solution for tracking site performance instead, like an uptime monitor mixed with tracking how long sites are taking to resolve, and from which areas of the world. As well, something like tracking user events too, like Mixpanel, but a lot easier to use rather than their enterprise solution. Is that something people would find useful?

Re: GoatCounter: Open-source hosted/self-hosted web analytics

#37
I'm a little bit confused by their use of EUPL (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Public_Licence), can anyone summarize the direct impact, e.g. what shouldn't you use it for?

Ah - their use of EUPL was actually modified so it is only compatible with "AGPL v3 and OSL v2.1, v3.0" (https://github.com/arp242/goatcounter/blob/master/LICENSE). So really it seems this should be considered as licensed as those two.

Re: GoatCounter: Open-source hosted/self-hosted web analytics

#38

I'm a little bit confused by their use of EUPL ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Public_Licence ), can anyone summarize the direct impact, e.g. what shouldn't you use it for? Ah - their use of EUPL was actually modified so it is only compatible with "AGPL v3 and OSL v2.1, v3.0" ( https://github.com/arp242/goatcounter/blob/master/LICENSE ). So really it seems this should be considered as licensed as those…

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Re: GoatCounter: Open-source hosted/self-hosted web analytics

#39

I'm a little bit confused by their use of EUPL ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Public_Licence ), can anyone summarize the direct impact, e.g. what shouldn't you use it for? Ah - their use of EUPL was actually modified so it is only compatible with "AGPL v3 and OSL v2.1, v3.0" ( https://github.com/arp242/goatcounter/blob/master/LICENSE ). So really it seems this should be considered as licensed as those…

The EUPL is copyleft for any derivative work (as defined by EU law) so the scope of copyleft is not clearly defined. But EU law allows linking without producing a derivative work [1] "linking two programs does not produce a single derivative of both (each program stay covered by its primary licence)". So this is weak copyleft. It's something like LGPL with network protection.

They have modified the EUPL license though, which means they have created another license which is incompatible with EUPL. I believe they should use a different name for the modified license. This is confusing.

> So really it seems this should be considered as licensed as those two.

If you create a different work based on the original (EUPL licensed) work and some AGPL code, you still have to abide by the EUPL but you license the resulting work as AGPL, so others have to abide by the AGPL only.

I'm not a lawyer

[1] https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/eupl/matrix-eupl-comp...

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