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Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by mikewarot »

-- Audio --

I used to buy CDs back before and especially during the rise of Napster. It made discovering new bands and music so much easier than randomly finding something new on the radio.

Then they started suing customers, and I stopped, just stopped paying for media. I've got MP3s of the CDs I had, and there's YouTube for anything I care to listen to that's not in that.

-- Video --

The whole extractive "Intellectual Property" industry can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned. The only reason I have Netflix is inertia.

-- Games --

I have bought a few games through Steam, and I'm currently a big fan of Stardew Valley, previously it was Factorio

-- Software --

Open source as far as I can go, but Windows 10 as WikidPad doesn't work on Linux due to breakages in wx_python

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by wonderwonder »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #568
wonderwonder wrote: post #473

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each of us is an inexperienced parent; we can all only do what we think is right. What I think is right may differ from you, and that's completely ok. My main objection to this really started when I saw the short "Out" listed prominently on my kids Disney+ account. Its an animated kid friendly short detailing how to come out to your family. While I don't think that watching a show like this will turn someone gay I do…

Do you also object to content aimed at children that discusses hetero relationships? That could potentially lead to confusion in children who are not heterosexual.

No, I am biased though as I would prefer my kids be heterosexual. I am biased for many reasons, I want grandkids, straight kids & people generally have an easier life (not saying it's a good thing) and it's just what I'm used to. If my kid is gay though then he's gay, I love him the same. I don't let them watch anything overtly sexual though, gay or straight.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by WheelsAtLarge »

Piracy seems like an easy way to get something for nothing but it becomes a time sink and you get crappy video long term. You end up filling your life with digital clutter.

It's so much easier to buy/rent the video and get it over with. There are so many and better ways to use your time than to waste it filling up a hard drive with videos you will never see.

I knew of a guy that spent his free time gathering videos. He had hard drives full of them. He spent so much time on it that he rarely watched any of them. All wasted time.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by sodez117 »

I pirate games in two situations 1. As a demo. If I think they're worth the money, I buy them (like Elden Ring and DOOM Eternal recently). 2. As a way of archiving my favorite games. For example, I “own” the original Prince of Persia collection in Steam, but I also downloaded the games and have them stored, in case for whatever reason Steam one day decides to terminate my account.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by helsontaveras18 »

twobitshifter wrote: post #505
luxcem wrote: post #380

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I’m now using virtual disposable card for any subscription to a service I'm not sure to use more than one month. If I forget it that means I don't use it and the subscription will end itself. If I somehow still need it after the first month, I usually get a email reminder or a message about payment processing failure and I can fix that with a non-disposable card.

what do you use for the disposable card?

I’ve used Privacy.com in the US. works great!

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by hhmc »

sodez117 wrote: post #574

I pirate games in two situations 1. As a demo. If I think they're worth the money, I buy them (like Elden Ring and DOOM Eternal recently). 2. As a way of archiving my favorite games. For example, I “own” the original Prince of Persia collection in Steam, but I also downloaded the games and have them stored, in case for whatever reason Steam one day decides to terminate my account.

I don’t see any justification for (1) given steam has a 2hour refund window.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by addandsubtract »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #501
SamuelAdams wrote: post #48

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My household has one streaming service at a time. We have lists (shared reminder lists in iOS) that we make for whenever a friend mentions a good movie - it goes on the Apple TV list, or Disney plus list, etc. then once enough films build up (can take 2-6 months sometimes) we purchase a subscription and watch all those shows for one month.

Are there any products or tools for managing this kind of thing? I generally want my lists of books/films/music playlists whatever that I've seen, reviewed or marked as "to watch" to be managed seperately from any one particular vendor, and owned by me. There seems to be some movement towards this with e.g. smart TVs that will search all your apps for shows, and sites that will tell you where a specific film or show…

Trakt.tv lets you bookmark, rate, and keep track of the sites and movies you watch. They also have an API which is used by other apps, such as kodi.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by uconnectlol »

Hamuko wrote: post #276
smolder wrote: post #246

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Owning a physical copy of a movie hasn't gotten any cheaper since the 90s. A Top Gun Maverick blu-ray is $25. Netflix streaming has gone up in price significantly from debut and has a worse content library, due to "the streaming wars." Streaming access is not fair to compare to ownership --it's closer to rental, but without any of the supply-side cost of making and distributing physical media, so value to consumers s…

> Games haven't really gone down in price either They have though. Games used to be so much more expensive back in the day. I actually ran across this nugget recently: https://twitter.com/Mailia/status/1608496022589952003 You had to shell out $70 for a copy of Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey '98. That's $130 when adjusted for inflation. And disc-based games weren't as cheap as you'd expect either. I think I saw an ad for C…

and once you adjust for cancer (microtransactions, skins, grind2win, slightly lower code quality, thought police, platforms like steam, no control over versioning, no ability to make your own server) you get the same value as they were back in the 90s.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by IIsi50MHz »

6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #472
wongarsu wrote: post #35

I have more disposable income than in my teenage years, so when it comes to convinience/money tradeoffs I'll natually choose differently than my teenage self. Where the streaming services are getting in trouble is if they are less convinient than piracy. Steam's success is largly built on being more convinient than pirating games, and similarly early Netflix was more convinient than pirating movies. Netflix and Amazo…

Rentals and a la cart are pretty much always more convenient these days. At my adult income level, $3 for a movie that's not on the services I'm subscribed to hits a reasonable spot in terms of convenience vs price. Anyone who ignores the a la cart option to justify "piracy is just convenience" isn't being honest with themselves.

For some people I know, myself included, that would be ~$84USD/mo., if all taken a la cart. This whole thread has me semi-considering the flag, as an alternative to starting umpteen more subscriptions.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by mikrotikker »

c1yd3i wrote: post #301

I pirate everything. Haven't subscribed to a service like Spotify, Netflix, etc. in many years. I can listen to my music in CD-quality and bring it anywhere. Same with any movie, TV show, etc. And I know that no one is selling what I find interesting as analytics data. At the same time, I want to support creators, and I'll donate/use services like Bandcamp to directly support folks I appreciate. I have a $100/mo "don…

Aye matey. Only thing I pay for is Bandcamp since it goes direct to the creator and steam games because the experience is amazing esp since I game exclusively on Linux.
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