The skilled trades haven't caught as a career choice with Gen Z

Post by hotpotamus » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 10:11 PM UTC

bluedino wrote: post #195

stonogo wrote: post #176

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No it isn't. You cherry-picked that single report, which was based on 76 turbotax returns. I suspect their data is wrong or corrupted, because making $160k as a journeyman lineman is only achievable with a decade experience and a truckload of overtime. Look around a bit further, or talk to actual linemen or unions, and you'll see the average salary for a lineman is about a hundred thousand dollars a year less than th…

Read some Reddit posts where people ask linemen how much they make. People reply with over $200k.

Post by notch656c » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 10:14 PM UTC

asdff wrote: post #302

tayo42 wrote: post #214

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The target worker in this case is people in Gen z? They're young out of school and own nothing. It doesn't cost anything to move in that case. I moved across the country with a suit case. My only cost was the plane ticket

So that didn't cost you nothing then. Then what did you do when you got off the plane? Presumably you paid a security deposit for an apartment and didn't just camp on BLM land. For someone with no credit history, a landlord might ask for 4 months rent as a deposit these days.

Post by rco8786 » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 10:16 PM UTC

prottog wrote: post #332

rco8786 wrote: post #321

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> ass-busting outcomes without the busting of the ass. Perhaps. But one only needs to look up to the original post to see that is not what we're talking about here. Busting of the ass for $25-30/hr plus overtime...not exactly getting wealthy here.

I don't know where GP's old employer was located, but it sounds like it's in a low cost-of-living area, the kind where homes can be had for under $100k. Earn $50-60k a year, pay off your house in maybe ten years instead of thirty, save a little each month and invest and let it compound over time; at the end you could have enough for a comfortable retirement and maybe even have some left over to hand down to your chil…

Post by SoftTalker » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 10:19 PM UTC

WalterBright wrote: post #301

lotsofpulp wrote: post #278

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The electrician is not charging to do a 5 minute job. They do not know that when they accept the job over the phone. They are charging for their time to drive to and from you, the possibility that the job is more involved than described, and the liability from doing the job. And the opportunity cost of not accepting a different job due to your job.

That's the price I was quoted to do the whole house, not one socket. $50 per outlet. If I hired one to come out and do one socket, I'd be sure to get a $200 site visit charge added on.

Post by sethammons » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 10:21 PM UTC

prottog wrote: post #325

Wojtkie wrote: post #310

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It's extremely easy to clear more than 25-30 an hour waiting tables in a lot of places.

The places where you can easily clear more than $25-30 an hour as a waiter are also places with high cost of living and expensive housing. As a counterexample, in my area (a midsize city in a low cost-of-living state), restaurants universally suffered from sharp labor shortages last year. $25-30 an hour would let you live comfortably here, meaning they should have had a lot of applicants; therefore the money just was…