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I was on BloombergTV talking SOPA today - how'd I do?

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Re: I was on BloombergTV talking SOPA today - how'd I do?

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post #19

Alexis, you did great. Cool, calm, collected, and sharp. You did a great job advocating what most of us here understand and champion. But here is the problem I see with this whole SOPA debate... I didn't see anything that would help my Uncle Art understand what this is all about in his language and why he should care. This is what he sees: - There is a bill in congress. - It's to stop people from stealing other peopl…

My favorite analogy on the DNS and monitoring problems:

Since shoplifters use roads to make their getaway, SOPA would have us set up roadblocks to catch all the thieves.

Could we catch more thieves by setting up roadblocks? Of course! So why don't we? For the same reasons SOPA would be bad law: we don't stop and search people in roadblocks (4th amendment prevents unreasonalbe search and seizure). Also, as a practical matter, roads, like DNS, are shared resources and the collateral damage to transportation (and internet routing) would be massive.

Re: I was on BloombergTV talking SOPA today - how'd I do?

#63
I thought you did little to address the real issue, which is the lack of judicial oversight or input to the process of taking down a website, and the economic effect that it has on the owners. Lack of recourse or due process is already hurting the US, look at Russia's new law bannning using foriegn websites. There should be a way to adjudicate these matters, and the government should have to take responsibility for first amendment concerns by taking down website by decree not by actions of parties that have more at stake than the copyright or other issues.

Re: I was on BloombergTV talking SOPA today - how'd I do?

#64
I thought you did little to address the real issue, which is the lack of judicial oversight or input to the process of taking down a website, and the economic effect that it has on the owners. Lack of recourse or due process is already hurting the US, look at Russia's new law bannning using foriegn websites. There should be a way to adjudicate these matters, and the government should have to take responsibility for first amendment concerns by taking down website by decree not by actions of parties that have more at stake than the copyright or other issues.

Re: I was on BloombergTV talking SOPA today - how'd I do?

#65
I thought you did little to address the real issue, which is the lack of judicial oversight or input to the process of taking down a website, and the economic effect that it has on the owners. Lack of recourse or due process is already hurting the US, look at Russia's new law bannning using foriegn websites. There should be a way to adjudicate these matters, and the government should have to take responsibility for first amendment concerns by taking down website by decree not by actions of parties that have more at stake than the copyright or other issues.

Re: I was on BloombergTV talking SOPA today - how'd I do?

#66
I thought you did little to address the real issue, which is the lack of judicial oversight or input to the process of taking down a website, and the economic effect that it has on the owners. Lack of recourse or due process is already hurting the US, look at Russia's new law bannning using foriegn websites. There should be a way to adjudicate these matters, and the government should have to take responsibility for first amendment concerns by taking down website by decree not by actions of parties that have more at stake than the copyright or other issues.

Re: I was on BloombergTV talking SOPA today - how'd I do?

#67
I thought you did little to address the real issue, which is the lack of judicial oversight or input to the process of taking down a website, and the economic effect that it has on the owners. Lack of recourse or due process is already hurting the US, look at Russia's new law bannning using foriegn websites. There should be a way to adjudicate these matters, and the government should have to take responsibility for first amendment concerns by taking down website by decree not by actions of parties that have more at stake than the copyright or other issues.

Re: I was on BloombergTV talking SOPA today - how'd I do?

#68
post #19

Alexis, you did great. Cool, calm, collected, and sharp. You did a great job advocating what most of us here understand and champion. But here is the problem I see with this whole SOPA debate... I didn't see anything that would help my Uncle Art understand what this is all about in his language and why he should care. This is what he sees: - There is a bill in congress. - It's to stop people from stealing other peopl…

The problem I have with the shoplifting analogy as presented is that someone unfamiliar with SOPA might conclude that the website at risk must also be the victim of the crime. How about analogies to other crimes like stealing from another customer, assaulting another customer, etc. What's ironic is that the bar/nightclub industry is effectively governed by such a law. It seems that, when patrons decide to do bad thin…

Two people are overheard talking in a grocery store about how you can make your own orange juice at home from oranges. Tropicana shuts the store down.

Re: I was on BloombergTV talking SOPA today - how'd I do?

#69
post #57
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Despite my differences with much of the Republican party platform, one thing that they are damn good at and I respect them for is an ability to communicate with their target base. Where's there's a hot topic issue, the Republicans will come out in lockstep with voices on the same wavelength. They use clear and simple language with a single antagonist. In the really big battles they even coin phrases like 'Obamacare',…

It doesn't hurt that they have a 24hr propaganda network dedicated to repeating these catch phrases and sound bites over and over again.

That came later after talk radio built the audience. The political messaging came first, over decades, to whip up a base of support. Fox is the number one news channel in the US because it resonnates with the receptive base audience.

Re: I was on BloombergTV talking SOPA today - how'd I do?

#70
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, make it simple and something the layman could understand. I'd adjust the analogy to "If someone shoplifts a DVD from Best Buy , this bill allows the government to shut down the store."

Is that really true (in the sense of being analogous to what the bill does)? I thought it was more like, "If someone carries a shoplifted CD into Best Buy and leaves it on a shelf, it allows the government to shut down all Best Buys".

Good point. Maybe this would be more fitting:

"If a store in a mall sells counterfeit goods, the entire mall gets shutdown"

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