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Cargo Cult Quantum Factoring

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Re: Cargo Cult Quantum Factoring

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post #14

One of the most fun (?) parts of academia is the unique blend of frustration and satisfaction that results when a shoddy paper somehow clears peer review only to get eviscerated when it lands on the desk of an actual expert. "the detailed exploration of irrelevancies" LOL, if that isn't a "time-tested" method for making a paper sound academic, I don't know what is.

> the detailed exploration of irrelevancies

Also signals a bad reviewer who wanted their work cited. Not in this case though.

Re: Cargo Cult Quantum Factoring

#23
I did graduate work in Materials Science and the understanding in our lab was to be very skeptical of papers from China, particularly from the State Key Labs as they were very often impossible to replicate and ended up being useless. Seems relevant to this paper as well.

Re: Cargo Cult Quantum Factoring

#24
post #19
post #2

He's referring to this: https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.12372 Scott's take: > NO. JUST NO.

There are over 20 names on that paper. That is unusual?

I don't know why you're downvoted. I think it's not unusual given the field. Certainly some fields have much larger average number of authors than others

Re: Cargo Cult Quantum Factoring

#25

Eventually Scott Aaronson will be wrong. Call it a reverse black swan, but we will all remember it as the day the quantum computing era began.

Scott Aaronson is not a quantum-computing skeptic, quite the opposite, he has always seemed optimistic about its prospects and his work has been fundamental to progress in the field. He just does not like hyped-up work that has little substance. If anything, Bruce Schneier should have been a bit more skeptical - this type hyped-up unreviewed preprint papers appear very frequently these days.

Re: Cargo Cult Quantum Factoring

#26

Eventually Scott Aaronson will be wrong. Call it a reverse black swan, but we will all remember it as the day the quantum computing era began.

Just wanted to point out that Scott Aaronson is not one of those anti quantum curmudgeons. Besides bashing on companies with questionable claims, I think he's been pretty open minded about looking for problems and algorithms with actual quantum advantages.

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#27
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are over 20 names on that paper. That is unusual?

I don't know why you're downvoted. I think it's not unusual given the field. Certainly some fields have much larger average number of authors than others

This is not experimental particle physics, where CERN just publishes everyone in CMS or ATLAS.

Apparently the most recent ones just mention the * Collaboration, but I distinctively remember seeing papers with hundreds of names in the author list.

Re: Cargo Cult Quantum Factoring

#28
post #14

One of the most fun (?) parts of academia is the unique blend of frustration and satisfaction that results when a shoddy paper somehow clears peer review only to get eviscerated when it lands on the desk of an actual expert. "the detailed exploration of irrelevancies" LOL, if that isn't a "time-tested" method for making a paper sound academic, I don't know what is.

This is not always the case. SA and Sabine, are the hyper rare outliers in this regard. Fields like biology have no such folks for variety of reasons (I’m counting out some celebrities involved in pointing out actual misconduct instead of sloppy work).

Re: Cargo Cult Quantum Factoring

#29

I did graduate work in Materials Science and the understanding in our lab was to be very skeptical of papers from China, particularly from the State Key Labs as they were very often impossible to replicate and ended up being useless. Seems relevant to this paper as well.

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Re: Cargo Cult Quantum Factoring

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I did graduate work in Materials Science and the understanding in our lab was to be very skeptical of papers from China, particularly from the State Key Labs as they were very often impossible to replicate and ended up being useless. Seems relevant to this paper as well.

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A country, and specific institutions within, having a bad reputation for published research reliability isn’t racism.
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