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Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#111
Well as you say, those opinions are likely not held by most others, and you are not wrong about not sharing on social media.

I don't agree with your opinions, quite opposed in fact, and generally if you find that sort of thing attractive in IRL it usually means there is some amount of compensating for something else going on which could be any number of reasons, which we don't need to get into (as that would be unhelpful), its something that generally and helpfully is something to talk through with a qualified professional.

Everyone is entitled to their own evolving opinions as that is a fundamental requirement for intelligent critical thought, and necessary for growth. So long as it does not harm others.

Rather than go into a long diatribe on the dangers of surveillance. I'll just say, you are not wrong.

There is a concerted multi-industry effort to reduce agency, eliminate accountability, and increase corruption under the "We just won't tell them and stonewall" strategy.

What you don't realize is most content online is junk, its not even people. Its orchestrated bots and its a subversive propaganda echo chamber designed with one true purpose; an efficient many to one communication system to interfere with legitimate activities, and cause polarization through the use of psychological blindspots which everyone has.

You may find Cialdini's Influence an interesting read if you are wanting to know more about those blindspots. Once you know their structures, its much simpler to alert on them, when they are being used on you.

One clear sign of propaganda is the use of those blindspots, and that is often coupled with fallacial arguments, or flawed logic; Ethics philosophy courses cover those.

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#112
post #5

I mean, I don’t disagree with the general point of being privacy focused as a default. Yes, that should be everyone’s approach given that we don’t openly share in real life. However, I do find it hilarious in a rather childish way that you are surprised how people react to your opinion on incest. Of all opinions, why even use that as an example? It just shows that there simply is an issue of over sharing and not bein…

> You know what I get from your opinion? That you are ok with adults abusing children they are related to. Even if that’s not your point, you have to at least recognize that’s gonna be a generally unpopular opinion unless you tend to hang out with pedophiles. That's not even close to what OP stated. What are you talking about?

> That's not even close to what OP stated.

Exactly, but that goes to show how conditioned/indoctrinated some people can be and its not their fault.

Its not like defenses against indoctrination or subversion are taught in K-12 (school), its more the other way around.

People see one thing and act like you say something else, when you didn't. Its an irrational state often found in demoralization which is a goal of subversive propaganda.

Its often referred to as trigger associations, and quite a lot of people have these thanks to no regulation of subversive content over the years.

Those people are being irrational, and you can't argue with someone or something that doesn't reason.

Honestly if they were intelligent, they'd strive to identify and remove those triggers through systematic desensitization. The fact that you can't rationally communicate on a subject you disagree with is a pretty good test for those associations. Most people don't have the self-awareness to do this though largely because if they did, they wouldn't be in that state to begin with, at least some would argue that.

Its important to read what was said, and then react rationally, and respond to what was actually said.

If you can't talk, then you can't think. Its a necessary requirement for intelligence and critical thought. Just because you talk to someone doens't mean you have to agree with them, not even in the slightest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoralization_(warfare).

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#114

Looks like you are a very young fellow. Anyway here are my suggestions: 1) Never ever talk about taboo subjects in situations where you have a lot to lose: for example jobs. 2) It is still worth broaching (very, very carefully) some minor taboo subjects just to separate the wheat from the chaff. The chaff being people who have the majority view. The people who have minority/contrarian view often have different and be…

> Democracy/consensus is generally tyranny of the masses: not what is right. Yep, serial killers and such are cool, it is just blind statism led by all the sheeple that they're going to be locking up that Idaho murder guy. I am very contrarian and counterintuitive.

White centered, heterosexual centered, male centered opinions held in the last few centuries by the majority of people show that being held by the majority of people doesn't make an opinion right.

Democracy isn't perfect and recognising it is important but at least it allows for change to happen if it's worth it so there is that

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Democracy/consensus is generally tyranny of the masses: not what is right. Yep, serial killers and such are cool, it is just blind statism led by all the sheeple that they're going to be locking up that Idaho murder guy. I am very contrarian and counterintuitive.

White centered, heterosexual centered, male centered opinions held in the last few centuries by the majority of people show that being held by the majority of people doesn't make an opinion right. Democracy isn't perfect and recognising it is important but at least it allows for change to happen if it's worth it so there is that

> held in the last few centuries by the majority of people

I suspect that India and China either individually or collectively might like to challenge you on that assertation of "majority".

I'm guessing that was a deliberately self aware foot shooting comment crafted to highlight Anglo-centric myopia?

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

White centered, heterosexual centered, male centered opinions held in the last few centuries by the majority of people show that being held by the majority of people doesn't make an opinion right. Democracy isn't perfect and recognising it is important but at least it allows for change to happen if it's worth it so there is that

> held in the last few centuries by the majority of people I suspect that India and China either individually or collectively might like to challenge you on that assertation of "majority". I'm guessing that was a deliberately self aware foot shooting comment crafted to highlight Anglo-centric myopia?

I didn't know that the world was a global democracy.

Yeah, China's racist policiess are really making Europe a repressed minority /s

Democracies are limited on scope to countries and yes, the comment was made focusing on the US.

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The possibility to have a healthy debate on any topic is the root of progress!

Fair enough, though I would argue it’s impossible to have a healthy meaningful debate on “the internet” (by which I mean reddit or any social media)

Sadly true

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#118
post #7

Why do you want to share your opinions on controversial topics? What do you get out of it? No one cares about your opinions on incest except to dunk on you. You're not going to revolutionize society's opinions on incest. So stop doing that. There's a whole universe of non-politics and non-religion topics out there. Go find a cool one. Maybe explore music theory and analysis, plenty of people to talk to about that. Ma…

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Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#119
post #5

I mean, I don’t disagree with the general point of being privacy focused as a default. Yes, that should be everyone’s approach given that we don’t openly share in real life. However, I do find it hilarious in a rather childish way that you are surprised how people react to your opinion on incest. Of all opinions, why even use that as an example? It just shows that there simply is an issue of over sharing and not bein…

First of all, I'm not ok with incest in principle. However, they stated that they are talking about incest between adults. Nothing to do with abusing children.

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#120
I hope this isn't presumptive but I have struggled with mental health for years and one thing I have noticed is my tendency to withdraw and focus on the differences between myself and others. Yes, it seems you have some opinions that are controversial and that I myself don't agree with. But, you probably also have a lot more in common with people than you may be giving yourself credit for. And don't bother trying to figure out which side fits you better - it's a false dichotomy. Yes, there are talking points that are different but when it comes down to it the actual people who control the parties are the same breed.
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