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Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#471
Around the time that Metallica started suing their biggest fans rather than trying to work with emerging distribution models, I just gave up on the music industry entirely. The Sony rootkit added injury to insult, and I was done. The whole fiasco left such a bad taste in my mouth, I felt physical revulsion if I even thought about buying a CD, and I didn't feel like pirating anything either. Commercial music had its Bill Cosby moment, basically, and I wanted nothing to do with it. I had a big collection of MP3s but they lost their appeal. They were all tainted, the whole industry was dirty. I felt dirty listening to any of it, no matter how I acquired it.

I still went to concerts on occasion, but the smaller the better. And the only time I'd buy new CDs was in the lobby after the show. My cash went directly into the artist's hand, that was the only way I could see supporting the art form. If I listened to anything casually, it was radio, and I got so annoyed with top-40 and robo-rock stations that I installed a better antenna on my roof so I could pick up the little high-school LPFM station a few towns over, where real deejays still existed.

(They are still excellent, by the way. A fresh batch of optimism every semester, passion for the music, pride in the technical aspects of the broadcast. I've learned to accept REM being referred to as "oldies".)

After over a decade of this, Spotify finally made sense. It seemed like things had settled down enough, the industry had made it easy to go legit. I paid my money, got my music, I knew at least some tiny fraction of that was theoretically going to the artists (though the more I learn about this, the more disgusted I become), life was good. I could enjoy music again.

Then Spotify had its Joe Rogan moment, and I went back to feeling dirty about everything.

There's a parallel story about movies and TV, though I was never much into either. Never signed up for Netflix even in its golden era, but I can see plain as day that that era is dead and buried.

Will I pirate again? Likely not; it's simply easier to do without. I have a big shelf of dead-tree books that I've been meaning to read, and I'm finally starting to get through them. They're DRM-free, low-power, and the display contrast ratio is second-to-none.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#472

I have more disposable income than in my teenage years, so when it comes to convinience/money tradeoffs I'll natually choose differently than my teenage self. Where the streaming services are getting in trouble is if they are less convinient than piracy. Steam's success is largly built on being more convinient than pirating games, and similarly early Netflix was more convinient than pirating movies. Netflix and Amazo…

Rentals and a la cart are pretty much always more convenient these days. At my adult income level, $3 for a movie that's not on the services I'm subscribed to hits a reasonable spot in terms of convenience vs price. Anyone who ignores the a la cart option to justify "piracy is just convenience" isn't being honest with themselves.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#473

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There have been several times, generally during pride month where gay focused shows have been the top items displayed on my kids accounts when they login. Adult accounts are fine. They are animated and kid friendly shows so they encourage children to click on them. Really don't want my kids watching an animated show telling them how to come out. Another is a large number of recent Disney movies feature LGBTQ main cha…

I know I'm not going to change your mind, but this viewpoint just seems so strange and morbidly fascinating. What exactly does "exposure to homosexuality" even mean? These shows and movies aren't depicting gay sex. They aren't trying to convince straight kids that they are gay. They aren't even advocating politics. What specific content do you object to? My kid is Disney movie aged, and we've watched em all--it's exh…

Each of us is an inexperienced parent; we can all only do what we think is right. What I think is right may differ from you, and that's completely ok. My main objection to this really started when I saw the short "Out" listed prominently on my kids Disney+ account. Its an animated kid friendly short detailing how to come out to your family. While I don't think that watching a show like this will turn someone gay I do think it can potentially lead to confusion in a kid. My take is that while people are generally born gay, that peoples minds can be changed or confusion introduced, in much the same way that exposure to pornography can induce / awaken sexual fetishes (I am not calling being gay a fetish). I am very open to the fact that I could be completely wrong and I am ok with that. My kids know about gay people and I am always careful to tell them that people are free to live their lives and be happy how they want. In the long run I don't think not allowing my kids to watch a few shows is going to have detrimental affects and just do the best that I can.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#474
I’ll always pay for Spotify or something like it because the UX is 1000x better than pirating everything and trying to sync up my collection to the cloud across devices. Not gonna bother with that. The ease of discovering new music and sharing it with friends is also unparalleled.

For movies, I usually just pay $4 to rent it from iTunes on my Apple TV. If it’s something I love and want to keep forever I might pirate it.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#475

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> My experience is that the learning curve for piracy has increased quite a bit. IIUC you need some private tracker to reliably source things, something that takes time and connections most people don't have. Only if you want rare and older stuff (and even then, only sometimes). Anything mainstream, a public tracker is more than enough.

Are content owner letters/lawsuits still a thing? Piracy was cool(tm) when I was a broke high school student, but now that I have assets worth being sued over (and now that if my ISP cut me off I couldn't just move to a different apartment at a moment's notice) I'll just pay for the Bluray or for a month of Hulu or whatever, it's far simpler. I have a significant legitimate media library (>1TB), I have the Plex/Kodi…

Depends on your country. In Germany: Extremely. Probably a few seconds of uploading (of a movie or porn, don’t think they care much for other things) will get you a letter (edit: C&D + damages, courts see it as commercial distribution, so the letter blackmails you to pay 300-500 € instead). Or you can use a VPN.

As I said in another post, I like to pay when given the option and I don’t have to jump through tons of hoops.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#476

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Peep Show, 30 Rock, Community. Modern classics, editing out "offensive" material, that was actually making a point about how offensive it is.

What's edited out of peep show? The swastika post-it? How would you even edit that out? If I recall correctly it puts the whole character of Sophie in a different, much more naive, light. It's one of the first times we actually get anything longer than a small transactional interaction from her and it deconstructs some of the character that has been built up from Mark's (imagined, infatuated) head. I might be misreme…

Jeremy’s blackface taboo sex with Nancy.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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post #467

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There have been several times, generally during pride month where gay focused shows have been the top items displayed on my kids accounts when they login. Adult accounts are fine. They are animated and kid friendly shows so they encourage children to click on them. Really don't want my kids watching an animated show telling them how to come out. Another is a large number of recent Disney movies feature LGBTQ main cha…

You have the right to parent your kids any way you want, but I want to gently say that if you have a gay kid, this isn't going to make a difference. I knew I was gay (or at least same sex attracted) when I was 5 or 6. And one reason I knew this is that 80+% of movies I watched ended in male + female romances and I didn't get why I didn't like that, so I started searching online. Which is to say if you have a gay kid…

I 100% agree with you, I think that the vast majority of people are gay because they are born that way. I wish gay people nothing but happiness. I think that sexual confusion can arise though when kids are exposed to new ideas / concepts and I just want to delay that exposure as much as I can until they are older (at least middle school). Its just a personal parenting choice; I could be wrong and am ok with that. If my kid ends up gay then he's gay, I love him the same.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#479

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> without the free shipping we probably would cancel the video subscription. Amazon has never made sense to me. Living in Toronto the regular free shipping usually arrives in 1-2 days anyways. Is this wildly different in other cities? My partner pays for prime and I usually just order on my account anyways since there is little difference. Even if there is I rarely need something urgently.

Prime is free shipping _both ways._ Non-prime returns cost money. [1] That makes buying much more risk-free. I haven't paid for return shipping on an Amazon purchase for years. I don't know that I return enough to compensate for the ~$120 annual cost (I guess it's going up to $140?), but it does get me faster (and more to the point, deterministic) shipping as well, _and_ the other benefits like Prime Video. Overall I…

Hmm, I've definitely returned defective items before and never been charged shipping. I wonder if that has changed or if it doesn't apply to defective items. (The help page for amazon.ca for "Defective Item?" fails)

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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But that's literally (literally 'literally', not an annoying turn of phrase) a monthly 'chore' to sign up for (and cancel) the next one.

I recently forgot to cancel a one month free trial for a HTC Vive marketplace (yes, even they got some bullshit monthly sub going), and they locked me into a year long commitment. I’ve turned very sour to these monthly renewals and accounts I can’t keep track of anymore.

FYI you can usual cancel immediately after signing up and it'll keep working until the next bill is due
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