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Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Post by camel_Snake »

sliken wrote: post #377
c1yd3i wrote: post #301

I pirate everything. Haven't subscribed to a service like Spotify, Netflix, etc. in many years. I can listen to my music in CD-quality and bring it anywhere. Same with any movie, TV show, etc. And I know that no one is selling what I find interesting as analytics data. At the same time, I want to support creators, and I'll donate/use services like Bandcamp to directly support folks I appreciate. I have a $100/mo "don…

How do you view that content? Plex, Roku, TVs, and related are definitely spying on what you watch, even if it's locally hosted.

Jellyfin would be my recommendation if you are concerned about this. It's like Plex but open-source.

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Post by ghaff »

whythre wrote: post #415
jesuscript wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were a couple of movies I just can’t get without pirating. Already had Netflix and Prime, but to watch Chunking Express I would have needed to subscribe to HBO Max just for this one movie. There was no option to buy/rent it one time on YouTube/Amazon. This was true for at least 4-5 movies I wanted to see (yep, I’m that snob that doesn’t watch the latest and greatest). And then I’d have to remember to cancel HBO…

HBO max makes me mad. A bunch of good old movies had their rights purchased so if I want to watch the Thin Man, a movie from the 30s, I need to get HBO max. No thank you.

Or you can rent it a la carte. (Or very possibly borrow it from your local library whether they have it or can get it from inter-library loan.)

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Post by wintermutestwin »

ravenstine wrote: post #347

Open to it? I practice it when I find it the appropriate response to the market. I will usually pirate video under one or more of the following conditions: - I already own or owned a copy of the film at some point in my life - The film or show isn't available for streaming or even purchase - The streaming quality is vastly inferior to the format I can pirate - The film or show can be streamed but with no option besid…

>"free with ads"

I am learning to despise Amazon for this crap. As someone who still finds massive value in AMZ, they have poisoned the well and I feel that it is just a matter of time before I flush this company out of my life.

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

Sholmesy wrote: post #180

The incentives are misaligned. Netflix, Amazon, Disney et al, aren't interested in showing me what I want to watch for a purchase price, they are after my attention, and to divert me to their most profitable revenue stream (Netflix in house creations etc). My attention is not for sale, I'll buy content if it is sold in a manner that is attractive to me in a consumer friendly model, Louis CK selling his standup specia…

Thanks for reminding me of Louis CK website. One of the few places I'm happy to pay for content.

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Post by superlupo »

In the early days of video streaming services, I thought Netflix would become something like Spotify, where I could eventually watch everything.

Spotify, Apple Music, Google Music and all the other offers basically have the same repertoire, minus some specials. You will mostly be happy with choosing a single one. That is what I also would to like have for movies and series. Why is it different with visual media?

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Post by droobles »

I think piracy is born from overcoming economic inaccessibility, and sometimes convenience. In the case of a hypothetical teenager I once knew as well as myself, it was the desire to learn professional tools but they were faced with economic inaccessibility. Subscription services has made that cheaper, but with the volume of subscriptions required one might think we should go back. That hypothetical adult now though doesn't feel they need to do that because the open source ecosystem is amazing with a little technical nohow, but they wouldn't have learned that nohow without pirating professional tools early on.

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Post by buildsjets »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #365
sidewndr46 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Prime account, but I'll soon be cancelling it I feel. The same products can had on eBay for less money with no shipping charges added. Prime video is quite unique, but I'm very much past them putting pre-roll ads on the content I want to watch. It's universally an advert for their own craptastic, homegrown version of an existing well-defined format. If I was interested in watching Law & Order I can start fro…

> If I was interested in watching Law & Order I can start from Season 1, not from their knockoff version of it. Actually you cannot. Only Law & Order SVU is available on streaming. The original series and the other spinoffs only have the most recent season available online.

Actually, you CAN. It's all over bittorrent, therefore it is available online. Which brings us back to the title question, how many of you are open to piracy again?

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Post by dml2135 »

Shank wrote: post #100

> “We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,” he said. “If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and m…

The pirating user experience is incredible right now. Gone are the days of hunting around different torrent trackers and sketchy websites for what you want. You can set up a server with the *arrs and download anything with the click of a button, and then have it automatically added to something like Plex or Jellyfin to watch. And then you hold on to the media to rewatch it whenever you like, forever.

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Post by mattbrewsbytes »

terabytest wrote: post #10

I'm not going to speak about my personal practices, but I find the current landscape of streaming services unusable and unsustainable from a customer perspective. I share a Netflix and Prime account with my parents, and support for that is soon going to end. I don't feel like either of those services provide enough value to me to consider paying for them entirely by myself. The content is mediocre at best, finding an…

I think you hit the nail on the head with "The content is mediocre at best". This applies to all of the services with one exception for me where I see higher quality content, that's personal preference though so I don't want to get into a debate about one service vs. another. I'm sure others have that one service too.

What I will say is there are certain genres or types of content where I just feel like watching that type of content and any of the services will meet that need. Rarely is there a "killer show" that I will pay for a service that hosts it anymore. If I want to watch documentaries about murderers they all have some version of that, or cop shows or home shows or ... you get the idea.

Maybe this is age showing and just the nature of how Hollywood constantly regurgitates characters, shows or "franchises" where I feel like I've seen things already when they are brand new.

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