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Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]
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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]
#322Turns out the TOS violation had nothing whatsoever to do with racism, as so many commenters here were overly confident to proclaim, in typical HN style. It's because he'd linked to prohibited content in the wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki... Here's the issue discussing it: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/issu...
That’s … actually worse that they suspended him and killed access to his projects merely for linking to NSFW diffusion models on a wiki. https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki...
Given that it was literally a terms of service violation, and resolution was to remove the content in question (ie. this wasn’t GitHub saying “we were wrong” it was them saying, don’t do that or you’re banned)… it seems difficult to be particularly sympathetic.
Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]
#323Looks like relying on a centralised github isn't the most reliable choice. It's convenient, but if you don't want to be held ransom by Microsoft's decisions, then a self hosted repository has to be the way forwards.
At some point, someone will (re)discover the Linux Kernel development model again and announce that chatting over a mailing list, reporting bugs over (self-hosted) Bugzilla and sending patches via mail is the best thing since sliced bread ;)
First someone will have to buy GitHub from Microsoft and we will have to write a bunch or articles about how it is bad for someone to be able to control source code.
Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]
#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
The racist "information" in this case was produced by the maintainer of the project themself though.
Did he add the 'n' tag or did he just accept a PR with changes made to artists.csv ? That's quite a important distinction. As for the mods, I have no problem with those, he made the WhiteOnly mod as a response to existing mods which removed white people, and I can't argue against the George Floyd riots being anything but peaceful.
I can't say for sure where they got the data from, but the initial commit of the file, including all the categories, was by them[1].
I'm not even saying a ban was necessary in this case, just that the question is not about someone else implanting data, but the repository owner themselves.
Apart from that I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the author had racist intentions in their GitHub activity too. At least when it comes to their Steam activity there are indications that range from dubious to extremely clear racism. First of all there is the "White Only" mod for RimWorld[2], which seems a bit unsavory, but who knows. Then the question of why the "Black Only" mod[3] has an image of a black person with a spear in the African Savannah, whereas the "White Only" one has a group of white people standing happily on a planet in modern clothing. (The "Yellow Only" mod[4] has an image of Emperor Taishō)
Most condemning in my eyes is the fact that their Steam profile[5] shows that at some point their nickname was "Remember the six gorillion" (click on the little arrow next to their current name to see previous iterations). This is clearly an anti-Semitic, or at least Holocaust-denying reference.[6]
[1]https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/comm...
[2]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=15187...
[3]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=15188...
[4]https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=15205...
Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]
#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have no frigging idea even triple parentheses are unspeakable now. Just ran rg '\(\(\(.*\)\)\)' in my projects directory and found many instances authored by me. Guess I should prioritize fixing these, or next time I'm the target of some controversy, someone will use these as evidence of my antisemitism.
I suggest getting annoyed at the people who are constantly trying to think of new anti-Semitic dogwhistles. They make everyone's life harder.
Sounds rather conspiratorial and paranoid, like a psychosis; not to mention your incitement and implicit violation of the international human right to free expression and American supreme law protecting free speech.
Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]
#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s … actually worse that they suspended him and killed access to his projects merely for linking to NSFW diffusion models on a wiki. https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki...
Given that it was literally a terms of service violation, and resolution was to remove the content in question (ie. this wasn’t GitHub saying “we were wrong” it was them saying, don’t do that or you’re banned)… it seems difficult to be particularly sympathetic.
The terms should be changed. A violation of terms that they themselves created isn’t automatically right. It’s unclear it’s even technically right, let alone morally or strategically.
This has “kickstarter bans Unstable Diffusion” vibes.
Can anyone cite the relevant TOS section? It’d be good to know how far they’re trying to extend the moderation umbrella.
Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]
#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did he add the 'n' tag or did he just accept a PR with changes made to artists.csv ? That's quite a important distinction. As for the mods, I have no problem with those, he made the WhiteOnly mod as a response to existing mods which removed white people, and I can't argue against the George Floyd riots being anything but peaceful.
The very first version of this file, authored by him, already included the 'n', only on artists that are either black or draw black people in art. But sure, look at the guy that has dozens of red flags that all scream white supremacy and brush it off with "lol george floyd protests were violent tho".
Did he create the artists.csv file himself, or did he copy it from somewhere ?
This eagerness to attribute racism and 'white supremacy' to people has made the accusation pointless IMO.
I think the BlackLivesMatter movement was a big scam that fueled riots which cost people lives and a ton of economic damage while riding on a wave of legitimate but overblown criticism of police violence. Am I a white supremacist now ?
Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]
#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Looking at the Reddit thread about this, there was some arguably racist stuff going on in his repo That may or may have been warranted but these days "some arguably racist stuff" is a too vague description to be meaningful to act on, or pass judgement by on its own. Do you have the link to the relevant reddit-thread for better context?
It's been pasted multiple times in the comments, but here it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/co... If it was just one of those examples, sure. But there are multiple things that are 'arguably racist' combined with apparent activity on 4chan, I'd say it doesn't seem just coincidental. We don't know whether this has anything to do with the suspension though, everything that's being written…
There is about 42% of population which do not support George Floyd protests. White mode is also not really racist: at least it is less racists than certain members of US government.
However, he is based in Russia and that changes everything.
Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]
#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Looking at the Reddit thread about this, there was some arguably racist stuff going on in his repo That may or may have been warranted but these days "some arguably racist stuff" is a too vague description to be meaningful to act on, or pass judgement by on its own. Do you have the link to the relevant reddit-thread for better context?
It's been pasted multiple times in the comments, but here it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/co... If it was just one of those examples, sure. But there are multiple things that are 'arguably racist' combined with apparent activity on 4chan, I'd say it doesn't seem just coincidental. We don't know whether this has anything to do with the suspension though, everything that's being written…
I saw this response debunking the whole mod accusation:
https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103vsm2/we...
As for 4chan activity, how on earth can anything there be attributed to anyone ? It's a anonymous messaging board. I can go there and claim that I'm the prince of Wales and start making egregious statements.
Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]
#330Linking to some textual embeddings in the Wiki is the reason. Here is the relevant commit which reinstated the repository:
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki...