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Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

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Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#301
I pirate everything. Haven't subscribed to a service like Spotify, Netflix, etc. in many years. I can listen to my music in CD-quality and bring it anywhere. Same with any movie, TV show, etc. And I know that no one is selling what I find interesting as analytics data.

At the same time, I want to support creators, and I'll donate/use services like Bandcamp to directly support folks I appreciate. I have a $100/mo "donation" fund.

Has nothing to do with the price as I'm more than happy to support creators. Just not through centralized platform that doesn't respect my freedom.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#302
I never stopped pirating, I watch movies once a week at most.

All my friends rely on streaming services, every few weeks we have a movie night, 50% of the time we can't find the movie we plan on watching even though they have 4 or 5 services, and when we find the movie we have another 50% chance of it not being available in OV.

Even when it works flawlessly, and even if you pay for the "Uber+ 8k topmaxi over resolution" option you have the same bitrate as when you were buying a DVD for 3 euros in 2005

Also, 90% of the created content is absolute garbage, sometimes we boot netflix just to scroll for literally 20 minutes in quest for something to watch before giving up

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#303
For me it is not about monetization anymore, it is about convenience. I would gladly pay netflix or any other provider to have access to movies I want to actually watch. Right now it is more about what netflix wants me to watch. So I usually pay netflix for month or two when I there is something I want to watch and cancel subscription shortly after. I think rent/buy model is more sustainable here then pure streaming services.

For games I rarely pirate something, steam/gog/xbox are just too convenient for me. Unless it is something on the platform I don't have, but I still want to play it in an emulator.

Music is sort of middle ground. I am ok with content selection major stream providers have now. So basically the only thing I care about is to platform to not mess with me with some bullshit features. I switched from spotify, because I got tired of how their android and mac apps work.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ebooks are the worst offenders IMO. Most stores I’ve seen don’t even tell me the format or DRM, but I’m pretty sure it won’t be an open format

Worst part for me is that even libraries, who want to promote openness and reading, are perfectly comfortable with delivering books using Adobe's horrible DRM delivery solution.

Libraries have to play in the rules the publishers give them or else they get cut off from the supply of ebooks. They already have to pay more for the ebooks that expire after a certain number of loans.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#305
Some of the problems I think I’m seeing around streaming right now is that every media conglomerate is trying to extract the most they can from consumers. Media companies are debasing cable packages and streaming cable-like packages (Sling, etc.) where their channels and on-demand content is aging and lowering in quality and availability. They increasingly seem like platforms to advertise the Plus versions of services where valued content and new original content is moving rapidly to paid streaming, e.g. Discovery+, Paramount+, HBO+, Disney+, etc.

While this extraction reality sucks but I feel like there’s a game to play here that’s still better than piracy though.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#306

> I just feel like if we’re at peak monetization. We're really not. If anything there's more content (for lack of a better word) available for token amounts of money than there ever has been. I don't know how old you are but back in the distant past of the 90s you had two choices if you wanted to watch a film, you could go to a shop and buy a copy, probably for more money than you'd pay for a monthly Netflix subscrip…

Intellectual property is an artificial, legal notion with a specific stated Constitutional purpose. It's not God-given either. It is also supposed to be limited, but currently it's 100+ years which is effectively unlimited since it's beyond a normal human lifetime.

The current situation overly incentivizes creation of intellectual property, particularly entertainment. Did we really need 50+ cable channels with shows 24/7? Did we need endless talk shows in the 90's and reality shows in the 00's? Do we need remakes upon remakes upon remakes of franchises of stuff?

If copyright returned to sane durations instead of the corporate-legacy-creating ones in effect currently, or even didn't exist at all, much of the resources that go into entertainment might go into better, less wasteful uses, or might go into developing actual novel entertainment.

> This whole thing just reeks of entitlement.

DRM schemes also reveal that entitlement goes both ways. External companies don't have a god given right to tell me I cannot watch X on my screen or download X.

Subjecting my personal property to surveillance to enforce a parallel to this old world is too far.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#307
DRM problems are very different depending on the medium.

I do buy many games, mainstream and not, and actually play them. In the big picture, DRM is not as not as bad as depicted; the vast majority of games rely only on Steam DRM, which isn't problematic.

Vocal game DRM opponents actually refer to a small section of the games landscape (AAA with Denuvo, mostly), so it's really something players love to hate.

I definitely had DRM problems a couple of times I can remember of. Definitely gave me problems, but it was a small percentage of the games I've played. If there's a problem, I don't disagree with getting a refund and pirate it.

Books are another story. In that case, I think that DRM is evil without exception, because it's important for me to use my own tools on books, which DRM prevents. Differently from games though, there are multiple distribution channels for books, and one may find more expensive non-DRM'ed versions.

(movies a different matter as well, which has been discussed quite extensively)

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#308

I'm not going to speak about my personal practices, but I find the current landscape of streaming services unusable and unsustainable from a customer perspective. I share a Netflix and Prime account with my parents, and support for that is soon going to end. I don't feel like either of those services provide enough value to me to consider paying for them entirely by myself. The content is mediocre at best, finding an…

My household has one streaming service at a time. We have lists (shared reminder lists in iOS) that we make for whenever a friend mentions a good movie - it goes on the Apple TV list, or Disney plus list, etc. then once enough films build up (can take 2-6 months sometimes) we purchase a subscription and watch all those shows for one month.

I'd love a website I could enter my account info for these streaming sites and turn each one on, one month at a time, with a click of a button. This would attract the ire of streaming companies though.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#309
I don't think it's ethical for our economic system to incentivize all these high-budget productions, so I like to "vote with my dollar," for what that's worth. Is it really good for humanity if billions of dollars are spent a year on Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 3: The Golden Spork or Top Gun: Maverick's Last Stand: The TV Show?

Various streaming apps are simply very difficult to use for me. Plus other issues: Netflix's 4K is inconsistent and has banding and artifacts that it shouldn't, for one example. There's a long, long list of dark patterns and whatnot which turn me off. You can't even screenshot in mainstream apps!

But with all these IPs being taken down and lost forever (esp. HBO), piracy and seeding feels like I'm contributing to the maintenance of a library. If we're going to spend billions of humanity's resources on these things, they should at least continue to be accessible somewhere.

The pros and cons list ends up pretty imbalanced!

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#310

> I just feel like if we’re at peak monetization. We're really not. If anything there's more content (for lack of a better word) available for token amounts of money than there ever has been. I don't know how old you are but back in the distant past of the 90s you had two choices if you wanted to watch a film, you could go to a shop and buy a copy, probably for more money than you'd pay for a monthly Netflix subscrip…

> content (for lack of a better word)

Content is the perfect word, insipid material to fill our bottomless pit of boredom

> which is honestly still better than what you'd see on any TV channel

The last time we had less ads on youtube than on TV they were still releasing new episodes of starget sg1, I'm too lazy to check when that was but I didn't even finish high school back then

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