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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Apparently it's been reinstated? https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/ - At least I could access it now.

This is a win. Good on Github. I was about to hound Nat to swing around a bat at his former stomping grounds. EDIT: Stripped some commentary about 4chan. I try to avoid editing like this, but the ban was for an entirely different reason, so it was needlessly provocative.

Bad on Github. It shouldnt have come down like that in the first place.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Regardless of what the author of the repo did or did not do, I think that deleting his account and everything in it is a failure on the part of github and warrants a policy change. There's lots of good knowledge contained in the issues and discussions hosted on the webui repo all of which are now lost or very hard to find. Even papers coming from big companies have directly used the repo as reference[1]. I was person…

Agreed. This is social media style moderation being applied to a website that is more similar to infrastructure or a library. If I were a member of a private, professional library* and a colleague was found to hold racist views or had submitted a racist paper, I would still find it unacceptable to see that all of their books and papers had been indiscriminately pulled off the shelves overnight. In fact, such a thing…

Good lord. The replies you’ve attracted are awful. I just wanted to say that I agree with you, so that you don’t feel like you’re the only one.

Have a nice day!

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Seems like you have decided that based off of someone's race that all circumstantial evidence should be assumed to prove guilt

On the off-chance that you're arguing in good faith: No. Circumstantial evidence becomes compelling only when there's a lot of it, all in one direction, without exonerating or at least contradictory evidence of some kind. If you have white robes with pointy hats, a noose, and a Confederate flag in your closet, I'm very comfortable assuming certain facts about you. If you can come up with a good explanation - perhaps…

If I found out that someone had a KKK outfit and a noose hidden at their home, yes I would also expect an good explanation for why they had that.

But if I found out that a black person had a picture of a white person on his computer under the "C" drive, I wouldn't assume that he named the drive "C" for cracker, and wouldn't expect him to prove the "real reason" his drive was named "C"

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Does beast-on-beast qualify as beastiality? I always thought that was just, you know, a Tuesday on Animal Planet ?

Probably not, but animal planet isn't made explicitly for human sexual gratification, so the comparison is a bit disingenuous

It was in the context of furry porn being upsetting. Not sure if panda furry on fox furry counts as beastiality. Maybe? It seems different.

In the end though, I blame Disney.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Really? "dumb" and "retarded" are considered "-ism" level offensive? What about retroactive abortion and the like? Is it so easy to trigger cancellation nowadays?

Yes, saying the latter word on reddit will get your account permanently banned site-wide...

That is indeed true. One of my alts there (like out of 25 at the moment, subject matter per acct) got permabanned sitewide for calling into question the business name and property ownership for a mental health nonprofit that has "ARC" in its name.

The "ARC" acronym stands for 'Association for Retarded Citizens', back when "retarded" was a clinical definition. It's now defunct. But those names still live on in property deeds and corporation names. https://thearc.org/about-us/history/ has the history of this name.

But Reddit.. egads, I have no clue what they're trying to accomplish. Maybe they're trying to clean themselves up from anything that even smells bad. If you want to speak about 'questionable topics', you have to use onomatopoeia to even talk about it (like, wee-tod-did , seggsual, unalive). I'm personally thinking of just abandoning reddit over their slow-boiling the frog, if you will.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Apparently it's been reinstated? https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/ - At least I could access it now.

This is a win. Good on Github. I was about to hound Nat to swing around a bat at his former stomping grounds. EDIT: Stripped some commentary about 4chan. I try to avoid editing like this, but the ban was for an entirely different reason, so it was needlessly provocative.

Nat left GitHub back in Nov 2021.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Again, there’s more alleged than just the “n” thing; screenshots of Rimworld titled “Auschwitz”, modding the game by race, mockery of the George Floyd protests. Sometimes we infer things from a combination of evidence.

Which ironically is how white people during the Jim Crow era in the south decided guilt vs innocence of black people accused of crimes. No real evidence just assumptions of circumstances based off of the person's skin color.

> Which ironically is how white people during the Jim Crow era in the south decided guilt vs. innocence of black people accused of crimes.

Civil vs. Criminal cases have different levels of guilt. Further, this isn't either, but a private company and its TOS. It's perfectly reasonable to hold different standards for different situations. I would hope that we hold a higher standard for criminal activity. What GitHub did was very much use the powers conservatives have fought long and hard to maintain.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Agreed. This is social media style moderation being applied to a website that is more similar to infrastructure or a library. If I were a member of a private, professional library* and a colleague was found to hold racist views or had submitted a racist paper, I would still find it unacceptable to see that all of their books and papers had been indiscriminately pulled off the shelves overnight. In fact, such a thing…

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Try steelmanning. Or, at the very least, maybe buttermanning, someone's argument when you respond to them.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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This is a win. Good on Github. I was about to hound Nat to swing around a bat at his former stomping grounds. EDIT: Stripped some commentary about 4chan. I try to avoid editing like this, but the ban was for an entirely different reason, so it was needlessly provocative.

Bad on Github. It shouldnt have come down like that in the first place.

Mistakes happen, and I’m a fan of mea-culpa reversion, as long as they undo their mistake quickly. Undoing it in a few hours (at 7am Seattle time, no less) seems fine.

Shaming people (and entities) after they publicly admit a mistake tends to encourage them to dig in their heels and never revert. GitHub has a stranglehold on developer culture; they easily could have kept him banned. But whoever got him unbanned is also a part of GitHub, so they’re worth praising.

I agree it wasn’t ideal though.

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