Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored] • Hacker News Board

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by slowmovintarget » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 2:34 PM UTC

oefrha wrote: post #126

smcl wrote: post #112

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Well if there was a person called "disfigured feet" who was Jewish, and you always referred to their name in triple-parens (and for some reason you repeatedly tweeted a bunch of Jewish people, always with the triple-parens) then yes this would be an good indication that you were using it as an anti-semitic dogwhistle. However the GP was careful to note that context is important here. I've no idea about term weights i…

Context is important in theory, but it certainly didn’t stop dijit from deciding that (((disfigured feet))), which they did not quote, was “pretty disgusting”. In this climate, it takes one Twitter personality with a lot of followers to tweet out a “look at this racist” tweet with very vague references to your crimes, and that’s it, you’re a racist to a huge number of people who will probably never look beyond that s…

1. Each set of parentheses adds 10% to the weighting of the term in a stable diffusion prompt 2. That particular term is in the negative prompt, signaling the model to avoid inclusion of matches for that in the produced images.

Context does matter.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by scarygliders » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 2:34 PM UTC

lbeltrame wrote: post #247

Apparently it's been reinstated? https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/ - At least I could access it now.

Looks like it has indeed.

Can't edit the title of my submission now. Oh well!

Edit: Thanks whoever updated the title!

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by huggingrear » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 2:35 PM UTC

dEnigma wrote: post #256

mensetmanusman wrote: post #252

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Someone can plant racist information anywhere and wait for the ban hammer then?

The racist "information" in this case was produced by the maintainer of the project themself though.

Did he add the 'n' tag or did he just accept a PR with changes made to artists.csv ?

That's quite a important distinction.

As for the mods, I have no problem with those, he made the WhiteOnly mod as a response to existing mods which removed white people, and I can't argue against the George Floyd riots being anything but peaceful.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by Filligree » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 2:36 PM UTC

cypress66 wrote: post #55

input_sh wrote: post #46

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It was 100% random. I'm surprised from a reddit thread that somebody else mentioned this Mati as a counter example as well, so maybe the one I randomly picked was an outlier, or maybe because of the csv "layout" that one stood out more to me and to other people.

It's a list of artists who, if applied to stable diffusion prompting, generates art of black people. Not a list of black artists.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by 127 » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 2:36 PM UTC

violini wrote: post #14

If this really is about racism, as some people are suggesting, it makes me wonder how equitably such TOS-rules would be applied in other cases. For example, if Linus Torvalds turned out to be a racist or sexist or homosexist or transexist, would his Linux repository ( https://github.com/torvalds/linux ) be hammered? Would he be removed from the Linux project somehow?

The true test would be if propagating a culture of hatred against men, heterosexuals or white people would be penalized equally.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by scarygliders » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 2:36 PM UTC

nodja wrote: post #204

Regardless of what the author of the repo did or did not do, I think that deleting his account and everything in it is a failure on the part of github and warrants a policy change. There's lots of good knowledge contained in the issues and discussions hosted on the webui repo all of which are now lost or very hard to find. Even papers coming from big companies have directly used the repo as reference[1]. I was person…

Luckily - and for now at least - it looks like A1111's account has been re-enabled.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by maximus-decimus » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 2:38 PM UTC

bunbun69 wrote: post #76

poszlem wrote: post #66

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And yet it's the minimum we expect from our legal system, I don't understand why we are okay with corporations being exempt from that.

Using GitHub is a privilege, not a right You should do your business elsewhere if you don't agree with GitHub TOS

If it's not a right, does that mean GitHub could ban every black user if they wanted to? I doubt it. Could they ban every Russian (or people of specific nationality in general)? Can they ban everybody sharing an idea?

I'm really curious where the line is drawn.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by Semaphor » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 2:39 PM UTC

selfmodruntime wrote: post #243

Semaphor wrote: post #26

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> though it's pretty disgusting in other ways In what ways? All I can see is some furry porn stuff. Explicit and not my fetish, but what parts are disgusting?

The second prompt includes "child, young". Yuck.

It’s a negative prompt, so a prompt to make it less likely to use things that could be tagged "child" or "young".

If you find that yucky, you need help.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by amelius » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 2:40 PM UTC

operator-name wrote: post #231

amelius wrote: post #98

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How do we know how to trust it without a central entity looking over its quality OR the next best thing such as provide usage statistics and community tools like an issue tracker etc.

Linux's model of trusting people seems to work for them. Github doesn't guarentee quality - the primary developer(s) were always the artiber of quality. There are also various projects managing issue tracking inside or alongside git, or git alternatives that integrate an issue tracker.

Yeah, but the problem is that if you have some project running on someone's server, how do you find the issues related to that project if they are not on that same server and managed by that same project owner?

If there is a security issue with some project on GitHub, then you can ask GitHub to look at it and they will take the project down. This cannot be done with projects running on someone's web server.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by 127 » Thu, Jan 05, 2023, 2:40 PM UTC

ntauthority wrote: post #176

Adding my own n=1 anecdote here - a member contributing to an open source project I'm involved in, who had a few repositories on GH with extensions to that project but no other notable 'negative' activity, had gotten a permanent suspension from GitHub a few years ago for responding to a mildly abusive issue report on the main project with the well-known 'Navy SEALs copypasta'... the abuser then reported them and thei…

This seems to be the real issue. Not that if the judgement is incorrect or correct, but there is no real effort to even make judgements that aren't just generated by some simple script.