Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

news.ycombinator.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

191–200 of 641 posts

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#191

Post by ghaff »

zokier wrote: post #132
kajaktum wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did people think was going to happen with subscription services? That you get everything you wanted in just one? This was inevitable, I am not quite sure why people were so excited about Netflix. It just meant that we own even less of what we consume. When you brought a disc (or even a digital version of it), you can kind of claim ownership. With subscription services? You can't even morally argue that you own i…

Spotify largely works as all-in-one sevice for (mainstream) music, I don't know why it would have been unreasonable to think that same could have happened to movies/series.

The licensing/royalty mechanisms for music have long been much more centralized.

I also strongly suspect that, if you look at the numbers, all you can eat for video would come with a price tag that very few consumers would pay--especially if you throw in live TV.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#192

Post by Kiro »

olex wrote: post #161
__jem wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this sounds economical but also a major chore

Not at all. I do the same thing, and the key is to cancel the subscription immediately upon signing up. You keep the one month you've already paid for, and don't need to worry about recurring cost.

Still sounds stressful and like a chore. I would feel "forced" to burn through as much of the backlog as possible during that month, even if I don't feel like watching something from it right now.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#193

Post by Only_Spam »

Zurrrrr wrote: post #153

I don't want to pay for DRM content. Piracy is a better alternative. Far less hassle and better quality. There is some very nice software out there so you can basically have your own private Netflix. Risk is minimal when setup correctly. People say piracy is stealing. It isn't. It's the natural order of things. People support things with money that they want to see. People see plays, concerts, and movies in theaters…

Agreed. An argument is that themovie producers won't continue producing movies. Which is false because more money is made in royalties, merchandise, and advertisements on streaming.

Piracy is stealing something measurable, property. If something is not unique or measurable, then what would the value be? So legally, I wouldn't consider it piracy by definition.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#194

Post by endisneigh »

virtual_void wrote: post #127
endisneigh wrote: post #20

Why pay when you can take for free, is the idea?

I think the idea is that it’s problematic to pay for many different streaming services to get the content. Spotify got it right for music - one subscription, everything i want is there. Movies etc, not even close. How is one to fight back? The traditional way worked for music. I’m happy to pay but I’m not going to be taken advantage of.

if you don't like it don't consume, no? seems simple to me. seems like a strange rationalization

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#195

Post by endisneigh »

jesuscript wrote: post #115
endisneigh wrote: post #20

Why pay when you can take for free, is the idea?

More like, don’t pay until they curtail their segmentation of content across myriad of services, each adding n number of dollars and mental overhead of automatically renewing subscriptions bundled with certain must-pay-on-delivery for certain content that’s not available any other way. We see their model, we need to stop the growth of it.

if you don't find value don't consume or purchase it and it will stop growing. it grows because people pay. piracy is a strange rationalization

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#196

Post by Freebytes »

Sholmesy wrote: post #180

The incentives are misaligned. Netflix, Amazon, Disney et al, aren't interested in showing me what I want to watch for a purchase price, they are after my attention, and to divert me to their most profitable revenue stream (Netflix in house creations etc). My attention is not for sale, I'll buy content if it is sold in a manner that is attractive to me in a consumer friendly model, Louis CK selling his standup specia…

They also have a tendency to edit, remove episodes, etc. And it does not even need to be for political correctness either. It could be licensing rights to music in shows. They will sometimes edit a show to remove the music or remove the episode altogether. (This happened with Scrubs.)

They will remove content that involves people talking about suicide. They will remove content that is offensive. They have even gone back and edited previous episodes and content. This has happened in Stranger Things (actual edits with no notice) and Arrested Development (a redesign of the fourth season that is far worse than the original version of it). (I could not watch the fifth season. It was way too terrible.)

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#197

Post by redbar0n »

lordswork wrote: post #162
__jem wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this sounds economical but also a major chore

Auto-expiring temporary credit card numbers can help automate cancellations after N months, but figuring what shows are on what services and signing up for them as needed is still a major chore.

The Playpilot app helps to get an overview over where (on what streaming services) a movie or show is available.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you are open to Piracy again?

#199

Post by olex »

Kiro wrote: post #192
olex wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at all. I do the same thing, and the key is to cancel the subscription immediately upon signing up. You keep the one month you've already paid for, and don't need to worry about recurring cost.

Still sounds stressful and like a chore. I would feel "forced" to burn through as much of the backlog as possible during that month, even if I don't feel like watching something from it right now.

May be. To me it's easily worth the hundreds of Euros in savings from not having running subscriptions to more than one service at a time. Oftentimes I have no running streaming subscriptions at all. I guess I watch a lot less than many people do.
Post reply on HN