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Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by ModernMech »

Semaphor wrote: post #90
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or that using the ok finger gesture briefly was career ending because 4chan openly declared a psyop to see if they could bait social media into declaring it a white supremacist symbol. Worked like a charm and hysteria abounded for a couple of months before the next hysteria was birthed and that one quickly forgotten. Unfortunately, some people who don't keep up with the day-to-day changes in what's considered unaccep…

Wow, that probably was contained within the US? Never heard of it. edit: Background https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol Seems like they managed to have white power fans actually adopt it.

I don’t know, I still have questions. I was told exactly this in 2002 by my Southern good ol boy social studies teacher.

According to him, it was a sign that KKK members in his town used to signal group membership to one another. In his telling the three extended fingers meant KKK, and they would tuck the thumb and index finger in their belt or waistband.

Either he was making it up then and it’s a complete coincidence his story matches the 4chan story 15 years later, which is also made up; or there’s a kernel of truth to it, and this guy was letting us in on some weird aspect of racist subculture that made its way to the mainstream in 2017. These people had so many other weird customs (like calling themselves wizards and dragons), I don’t see why secret hand signals are out of the question.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by isoprophlex »

jojobas wrote: post #77
isoprophlex wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strange if true. Those triple parentheses are weight modifiers, increasing the importance of the tokens inside. This reddit link posted elsewhere gives a more damning view, aside from the triple parentheses: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/co...

Those other "damning" examples are still idiotic and misguided. TL/DR he made a "white only", "black only" and "yellow only" mods for NPCs in some game and somebody apparently misinterpreted a tag in an artists list file.

Interesting. Maybe I was fooled by some deliberate outrage machine. I only read about the "white only" mod. Not the other two. Talk about cherry-picking...

The silver lining of this bullshit is that this again underscores how important critical thinking is.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by pca006132 »

ilyt wrote: post #100
violini wrote: post #14

If this really is about racism, as some people are suggesting, it makes me wonder how equitably such TOS-rules would be applied in other cases. For example, if Linus Torvalds turned out to be a racist or sexist or homosexist or transexist, would his Linux repository ( https://github.com/torvalds/linux ) be hammered? Would he be removed from the Linux project somehow?

Or if one of thousands contributors happened to be? We already had developer (of Drupal[1]) cancelled over their private BDSM kink (that isn't even illegal, which racism is), what stops some random moderator for deciding he's the saviour of the world and banning random repos just because a contributor might've been questionable? * [1] https://www.theregister.com/2017/03/29/drupal_dev_banished/

GitHub can ban your account if you violated their TOS, but I don't think they can/will ban the repo if one of the contributor might be questionable, you can fake commit history anyway. Perhaps they may ask the contributors to change git history if the contributor for a commit is really freaking them out for some reason? I have no idea.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by josteink »

donkeyd wrote: post #5
pizza wrote: post #3

Wow! for context: AUTOMATIC1111 created and maintains (maintained?) an extremely popular and active web ui for stable diffusion. Beast-mode maintainer. Even after the debacle w stability.ai (who, to their great credit, I believe, normalized discord chatroom relations rapidly), that’s a string of bad luck for this community keystone of the nascent txt2img technological tranche. Whatever the eventual steady state of th…

Looking at the Reddit thread about this, there was some arguably racist stuff going on in his repo which could've been related to this suspension. I'm not sure whether this is the right way to handle such things (banning those specific repo's might be better), but it would be somewhat understandable.

> Looking at the Reddit thread about this, there was some arguably racist stuff going on in his repo

That may or may have been warranted but these days "some arguably racist stuff" is a too vague description to be meaningful to act on, or pass judgement by on its own.

Do you have the link to the relevant reddit-thread for better context?

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by Semaphor »

smcl wrote: post #127
Semaphor wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, that probably was contained within the US? Never heard of it. edit: Background https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol Seems like they managed to have white power fans actually adopt it.

So this is where I don't know what to think - I'm overseas and don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of alt-right culture. I only knew it after it was co-opted by Nick Fuentes and his circle so I don't know if it was: 1. 4chan tries to say it means "White Power" 2. the news pick this up and runs with it 3. actual white nationalists started using it or 1. 4chan tries to say it means "White Power" 2. actual white n…

I’d say both are likely ;)

But it’s telling that the ADL at first refused to add it to their list of hate-signs, and then (according to wikipedia, after all I only heard of all this today) reversed their stance 2 years later. And almost all usage of the sign getting someone into trouble have also been 2019+ (again, from the wiki list).

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by ceejayoz »

knewter wrote: post #117
ceejayoz wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it was the variable name for an array of famous autistic people, it might raise eyebrows, especially if coupled with other coincidences.

"I've inferred 90% of a word you didn't write. Verdict is you're racist."

Again, there’s more alleged than just the “n” thing; screenshots of Rimworld titled “Auschwitz”, modding the game by race, mockery of the George Floyd protests.

Sometimes we infer things from a combination of evidence.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by tasuki »

luckylion wrote: post #86
dsr_ wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using multiple parens around a name is derogatory code for "this person is Jewish". Context is important.

So (((disfigured feet))) in the linked prompt means the feet are Jewish, and it's not about increasing the term weight? Thanks, I learned something new today.

It is in the "Negative prompt", so they really don't want disfigured feet.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by ewalk153 »

luckylion wrote: post #86
dsr_ wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using multiple parens around a name is derogatory code for "this person is Jewish". Context is important.

So (((disfigured feet))) in the linked prompt means the feet are Jewish, and it's not about increasing the term weight? Thanks, I learned something new today.

Note: (((disfigured feet))) falls in the negative prompt section meaning “don’t do this”. I suspect this is a technique to correct some artifacts.

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by smcl »

oefrha wrote: post #126
smcl wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well if there was a person called "disfigured feet" who was Jewish, and you always referred to their name in triple-parens (and for some reason you repeatedly tweeted a bunch of Jewish people, always with the triple-parens) then yes this would be an good indication that you were using it as an anti-semitic dogwhistle. However the GP was careful to note that context is important here. I've no idea about term weights i…

Context is important in theory, but it certainly didn’t stop dijit from deciding that (((disfigured feet))), which they did not quote, was “pretty disgusting”. In this climate, it takes one Twitter personality with a lot of followers to tweet out a “look at this racist” tweet with very vague references to your crimes, and that’s it, you’re a racist to a huge number of people who will probably never look beyond that s…

I have no idea who this "dijit" is, if you're upset with them you should tweet at them. I'm talking about a handful of people on HN pretending not to know that if you were to refer to me as "(((smcl)))" somewhere you are making the statement "hey smcl, I know you're Jewish. I want you to know that, and I want my little alt-right friends to know that too..."

edit: ok so digit is one of the people further down the thread, I'm not good with names

edit2: To respond to your edit, that sucks and I sympathise. I think this is an unfortunate side effect of the fact that when you're on the internet you're now exposed to thousands of different people who don't already know what kind of person you are, who misread and misinterpret remarks or who might have just had a shitty day and want to take it out on someone. Hell I'm one of those left-liberal, pro-lgbtq+, pro-feminist guys and I've had experience like yours very recently. I'd replied to a comment on FB where someone complained that some public works project cost X million euros, and said that non-engineers like us don't tend to have a good idea what such projects should cost - got a very angry reply along the lines of "Oh just because I'm a girl I get scared around big numbers? Girls can't do maths or engineering? ...". I had no idea what their gender was, the name was "Alex" and their profile pic was some anime or something :) It happens, it's frustrating and somewhere in my city there's a girl called Alex who either thinks I'm some misogyny bro or feels a bit silly for flying off the handle at me. It's the internet, [shrug] what can you do :)

Re: Automatic1111's GitHub account suspended for "ToS violations" [restored]

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Post by machina_ex_deus »

Need to call this bullshit by its name: Microsoft killing their competition. They had just released their own version of stable diffusion in bing a moment ago and now they ban the biggest competition from GitHub.

I don't believe they didn't know what they are doing. They definitely have statistics about repo usage and the guy suspending him definitely knew that it's one of the most popular repos out there.

Microsoft don't deserve the benefit of doubt here. This is a warning to anyone who competes with Microsoft in an open source project. Move elsewhere.

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