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Are we on information overload? (2012)

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Re: Are we on information overload? (2012)

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Yes, there's in fact an incentive mismatch here between the creator and the media. But it doesn't mean it wasn't there before to some extent. There are still great resources out there. So how do you spot them? Information does not come easy, and never has. If it's easy, you most likely won't remember it, which essentially makes the whole thing a loss of time. What I would aim for is focus . This is the big difference…

To be fair, I think the signal to noise ratio of your local branch library is a lot higher than what you’d find digitally these days

True but there is less signal available. It was much more effort and time consuming to learn. Now the effort is spent in filtering out the noise but it still seems like a net gain. Things like learning to cook or fix a bicycle, or find books and music are so much easier, despite the overwhelming amount of garbage/noise. At least that's my take as an adult who has lived in both worlds.

Re: Are we on information overload? (2012)

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yes? but jokes aside - the luddite movement that a few gen z teens have started seems to have caught on. phones like the nothing and others seem to be gaining traction too if one believes the media. i’m curious for hn’s perspective - how do you constrain and curate information? what’s the best line here?

I rarely use my phone for internet access, except in emergency or necessity, which is very rare. I have good taste. And have a very good bullshit filter. And no social media accounts, unless HN counts.

Plus adblocking.

Re: Are we on information overload? (2012)

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yes? but jokes aside - the luddite movement that a few gen z teens have started seems to have caught on. phones like the nothing and others seem to be gaining traction too if one believes the media. i’m curious for hn’s perspective - how do you constrain and curate information? what’s the best line here?

Disconnecting works for me. I don't participate in social media outside Hackernews and only read RSS feeds and newsletters from high signal-to-noise sources. About phones, I have a basic smartphone that I use for calls, messaging, calendar, and some day-to-day life apps. I used to be hooked on social media like Reddit, YouTube, Facebook, and mainstream media. But over time, I've grown increasingly disillusioned with…

This is good. There's also the digitalminimalism sub on reddit, which all revolves around methods and ways to curate use

Re: Are we on information overload? (2012)

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I hate it. I believe it comes down to the fact that most things are optimised for different things than what you use or want it for. i.e the best social network would connect you to the world, let you see what was important and give you that as easily and quickly as possible so you can spend as much of your life enjoying actual life and less using the tool, however it's ad supported and there goal is to keep you on i…

I think that this is a good summary of the problem. The incentives seems misaligned. And I am not sure that paying for content would magically make this disappear. Or if so, then the companies should offer completely different products to paying customers, not just ad-free experiences.

There's a dilemma. If the news sources knew what your preferences were, and you'd somehow pay the cost of filtering the news, then they could ship you just what you wanted. No more stories about mishaps across-the-ocean, or on topics that disinterest or rankle you, or from agencies you don't trust or want to support.

OTOH, who wants their detailed preferences out in the wild? Clearly a tailored model is better; how can that be implemented, in a way that doesn't filter out what you do want to hear about?

Seems like the filtering should happen at the client end. Are there ways to do that? (EG I might temporarily want to follow something for a week. Then not.) But: what's the incentive for the sources to feed your filters?

Re: Are we on information overload? (2012)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, I think the signal to noise ratio of your local branch library is a lot higher than what you’d find digitally these days

True but there is less signal available. It was much more effort and time consuming to learn. Now the effort is spent in filtering out the noise but it still seems like a net gain. Things like learning to cook or fix a bicycle, or find books and music are so much easier, despite the overwhelming amount of garbage/noise. At least that's my take as an adult who has lived in both worlds.

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