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Re: Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

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Post by icepat »

carapace wrote: post #920
icepat wrote: post #916

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that's not at all what Doctor means, not even remotely. Doctor has a specific meaning, and it's understood to mean a set of credentials. If you don't have it, but say you do, you're lying . It's absolutely relevant. If someone is claiming to have credentials they don't have, then they're untrustworthy.

If I promise never to call him "Doctor" again will you look through the referenced papers with me? I just woke up, I've got my coffee, and I'm ready to go... - - - - Gatekeeping the term "Doctor" is uninteresting, and it doesn't make your side of the argument look good. You have nothing stronger to dun him on? If you really want to focus on character assassination rather than truth and science, well here you go: http…

> Gatekeeping the term "Doctor" is uninteresting, and it doesn't make your side of the argument look good. You have nothing stronger to dun him on?

I think the fact that he's claiming to have credentials that he does not is pretty damning. You have this utterly backwards. If I claim to have founded something groundbreaking, and it turns out I lied about my credentials, that casts doubt on everything I've done.

Re: Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

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Post by carapace »

icepat wrote: post #921
carapace wrote: post #920

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I promise never to call him "Doctor" again will you look through the referenced papers with me? I just woke up, I've got my coffee, and I'm ready to go... - - - - Gatekeeping the term "Doctor" is uninteresting, and it doesn't make your side of the argument look good. You have nothing stronger to dun him on? If you really want to focus on character assassination rather than truth and science, well here you go: http…

> Gatekeeping the term "Doctor" is uninteresting, and it doesn't make your side of the argument look good. You have nothing stronger to dun him on? I think the fact that he's claiming to have credentials that he does not is pretty damning. You have this utterly backwards. If I claim to have founded something groundbreaking, and it turns out I lied about my credentials, that casts doubt on everything I've done.

So he calls himself "Dr." but he doesn't have a PhD. I get it. So terrible. Much deceptive. Wow.

Do you want to discuss some scientific studies or not?

Re: Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

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Post by MaxHoppersGhost »

dgwight wrote: post #757
alexmolas wrote: post #457

Social constructs aren't less real than other tangible concepts. For instance, I used to complain a lot about the non-sense that's to wear a tuxedo in weddings. I was the typical kid saying that I would like to go wearing my best sweatpants to weddings, and that probably my sweatpants are more expensive than some of the tuxedos there. Then, I matured and realized that what we wear have a meaning, wether we like it or…

What kind of sweatpants are more expensive than a tuxedo??

https://www.gucci.com/us/en/pr/men/ready-to-wear-for-men/pan...?

Re: Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #908
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #728

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> Bluntly, if a male says I can't be inspired by females isn't that because they're sexist? Not necessarily. It could be, but I wouldn't attribute it to malice as much as I'd attribute it to difficulty in relating to the person. > Do they have to consider separation of humans by characteristics to be important in order to get you that position where they feel alone with other humans? Your error in this is that you as…

It sounds like you agree that it's racism, or whatever, when we demand that inspirational figures have a specific characteristic but feel lack of acceptance of people as people is initially subconscious and so is excusable even when being consciously acted on? I'm thinking

I don't think it's racism or any -ism of that kind any more than it is difficulty relating automatically.

I am fairly certain that this is something that can be trained, but the degree to which I can relate with a man with ABC properties (except gender) will almost always be less than the degree I relate to a woman with ABC properties as gender is also included.

These decisions are always made rapidly, unconsciously, and when we have very little information about a person other than what we can immediately observe.

Changing the image that we have about people with other properties alleviates this.

Re: Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

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Post by mixmastamyk »

more_corn wrote: post #748

When I was 12 my wrestling coach was getting his PHD in fluid dynamics. He gave a tour of the lab where he worked. On screen was a simulation. He explained that they fly a plane back and forth through a certain column of air in the stratosphere to get starting data. Then, using his model he predicts what the flow will look like over a period of time. There were specks flowing through the space onscreen. I asked what…

I don’t get it.

Re: Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

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Post by icepat »

carapace wrote: post #922
icepat wrote: post #921

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Gatekeeping the term "Doctor" is uninteresting, and it doesn't make your side of the argument look good. You have nothing stronger to dun him on? I think the fact that he's claiming to have credentials that he does not is pretty damning. You have this utterly backwards. If I claim to have founded something groundbreaking, and it turns out I lied about my credentials, that casts doubt on everything I've done.

So he calls himself "Dr." but he doesn't have a PhD. I get it. So terrible. Much deceptive. Wow. Do you want to discuss some scientific studies or not?

Not if you're going to sarcastically dismiss valid points that discredit what you're talking about like this.

Re: Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

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Post by psychomugs »

btown wrote: post #671
fortituded0002 wrote: post #196

1. Everyone is the main character in their own story. This manifest in all sorts of ways - from people not being there when you need them the most, from friends dying off as soon as proximity changes, to how and why get people get promoted in jobs. This isn't necessarily bad, but if you don't know how to navigate this it can be quite painful and confusing. 2. Representation matters. I knew this for a long time, but i…

> Everyone is the main character in their own story For those with anxiety, one of the best pieces of advice I ever received (that also took me years to internalize!) was the corollary to this: nobody is thinking about you in a critical way, at the level that you are criticizing yourself, because they are their own main character. Which is incredibly freeing, because the anxious person’s assumption that one embarrass…

You’ll worry less about what people think about you when you realize how seldom they do.

Re: Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

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Post by carapace »

icepat wrote: post #926
carapace wrote: post #922

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So he calls himself "Dr." but he doesn't have a PhD. I get it. So terrible. Much deceptive. Wow. Do you want to discuss some scientific studies or not?

Not if you're going to sarcastically dismiss valid points that discredit what you're talking about like this.

So if I'm not completely respectful and I don't admit defeat before even we begin you're unwilling to examine the scientific evidence?

Re: Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

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Post by sanroot98 »

tootie wrote: post #413
jahnu wrote: post #372

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Regarding #3, the following David Graeber quote always stuck with me: “The ultimate, hidden truth of the world is that it is something that we make, and could just as easily make differently.”

Sapiens by Harari covers this extensively. So much of human development is our ability to ascribe fictive boundaries and definitions to things. Rules, authorities, myths, money, culture, countries, companies. What are any of them? They're all made up. We could just stop believing in all of them tomorrow.

All values ,social construct and structure we create as human maybe just as part of our human existence (essence ) ,same a wildlife photographer watches wild animals ,like a passive observer ,without any moral judgement and prejudice .We can watch humans with same lens ,all our man made problem ,may it be ecological disasters or economic system ,it maybe just side effect of our existence as a species.

Re: Ask HN: Concepts that clicked only years after you first encountered them?

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Post by sanroot98 »

gnat wrote: post #516
rgrieselhuber wrote: post #487

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A convenient stance, I suppose, when discussing what to do with “useless eaters.”

Convenience isn't the point. The rules of society, laws, morality, ethics, compassion as a virtue ... they don't exist as physical laws. They're human constructs, and humans can (and do) choose to ignore them. It's an important growth moment to realise that the consequences of violating those "laws" are not delivered by the laws of nature but instead by the behaviour of humans. So you can be rude or arrogant, and the…

At macroscopic level ,human construct is as valid as nature's
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