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Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#31
You're not the main character. You're not entitled to have the world accept your opinions gracefully. You're not even entitled to a "fair hearing out" of your views.

Unless you deliberately want to engage in advocacy to change society's view on a topic or persuade other people keep controversial opinions to yourself. If you aren't sure test the waters only in appropriate contexts without committing to the opinion which can let you safely gauge reactions.

I'm assuming these are mostly theoretical concerns not things you want to do yourself but without being judged.

FWIW I'm not the main character nor is anyone else.

FWIW #2: The sibling effect naturally causes partner aversion to any other children you spend a certain amount of time with growing up. Normally functioning brains exclude these people as romantic partners, though there are "exceptions" like siblings or cousins raised apart from each other. That's the source of the cultural taboo so you're gonna have a tough time getting anyone to sign on to that opinion. We evolved this way to prevent inbreeding so it's a fairly strongly preserved trait.

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#33
There a lot of thoughtful responses here except they miss the point that having an opinion is useless in almost every case except to make decisions about your own life. You will almost never change anyone's thinking expressing your opinion, and mostly it leads to a pointless debate when expressed publically (online). Just say what your preferences are and maybe why and leave it at that. Essentially no one cares what random people's opinions are.

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#35
It's not on the same topics you mentioned, but I feel the same - I don't agree with gender ideology but can't speak about it anywhere online.

I definitely get how you feel about becoming a 'bad guy' if you say anything at all that falls out of line witht the (particularly leftist) hiveminds. One 'wrong' move and you're done.

I feel like there need to be somewhere online that is free speech oriented but not as uncontrolled and downright awful as 4chan is. Some middle ground. I want a place where any opinion whatsoever is permitted, but not any action e.g. still no inciting violence or doxxing people.

Basically we need old reddit back, reddit before it became ridiculously overmoderated. But as long as we are at the behest of advertisers and profits, it's very difficult to make happen on a large scale.

Not to mention network effects that make competition in the social media space incredibly hard. Reddit is open source and you can spin up clone in no time, but very few people are going to use it when the real reddit is still there. What's the point of tweeting to an empty room?

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#36
My attitude is not that I'm afraid to share my opinions online because of IRL repercussions or getting downvoted, but because I know it's usually a waste of time.

Sometimes it's possible to have a simple and productive discussion online. When it comes to sharing personal political views, realistically nobody cares.

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#37
I would say that most big message boards are filled to the brim with psychopathic idiots lusting for an opportunity for a witch hunt gathered around a dumpster fire. It may be fun to pour a bit of gasoline in that fire from time to time and watch the monkey horde go apeshit (yeah, been there, done that)... but in the long run i would stick to smaller communities where you know that you can state controversal opinions.

It also helps to have separate online identities for different things (hey, this was even the case back in the 90s and before).

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#38
just share it anonymously, but mind HN is not some tolerant place to express your views which are opposing against supporting The Current Thing, it may look more civilized/polite, but instead of slurs you will just receive here numerous downvotes (I'd like if it would not be possibly to flag submission/comment without publicly stating reason for flagging as anonymous online "heroes" do here) and that's pretty much only difference between Reddit/Twitter and HN

same thing happened to my many years long HN account (downvoting/brigading through history/bots)

personally I couldn't care less about adult incest (it's a bit more tricky between two children/minors), same as I don't care about what homosexuals do in their bedroom, unless both these groups do some pride marches about it and show it in face (same with people showing pride in being obese unable to control own appetite), so my kids can't go in street without seeing obscenities (and same I'd like my kids not seeing heterosexual obscenities in street)

as for Twitter, you can use megablock.xyz to create echo chamber to avoid being harassed, for instance if you don't like Biden and what he represents (like promoting trans thieves as waste experts), go to some of his heavily liked PR team posts on twitter and use megablock to avoid contact with people who are dumb enough to like posts of ANY politician (for me personally as matter of principle I don't "like" anything on twitter for years and if I liked something, then any politician would be the last person to like whether I agree or not with him)

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#39
post #7

Why do you want to share your opinions on controversial topics? What do you get out of it? No one cares about your opinions on incest except to dunk on you. You're not going to revolutionize society's opinions on incest. So stop doing that. There's a whole universe of non-politics and non-religion topics out there. Go find a cool one. Maybe explore music theory and analysis, plenty of people to talk to about that. Ma…

On some level this response seems sane, but the more I think about it the more insane it is.

Are we seriously questioning why someone wants to share their opinions on a topic? Are we actually clueless as to what they get out of it?

Is telling them they should instead spend a great deal of time following a completely unrelated pursuit our solution?

"Hey, I'm having a hard time expressing myself while feeling safe from (as I see it) arbitrary harassment, and managing vectors for imagined retributions"

"Go decompile donkey kong"

...right

Re: Tell HN: I'm scared of sharing my opinion online

#40
Most people are saying "don't share your opinion on this". That's good advice as far as it goes. But my concern is more about shifting sensibilities. What if my opinion expressed today is generally accepted, but tomorrow is generally vilified. What then?

Consider the LGBTQIA+ community. Roughly ten years ago, identifying with the community was generally harmful to your reputation or whatever. Then the supreme court, in 2015, declared gay marriage legal, which was a huge help to the community. Then Trump got elected and things seemed worse than ever. Things have gotten better in the past couple of years. Caveat, I'm not saying identifying with the community is now "generally accepted", this is just a real-world example that is relevant.

So my strategy is

1) avoid posting much on social media. My primary reminder is that "almost no one gives a shit what I think, or at least they shouldn't"

2) have unique email address (via fastmail's Masked Email), unique debit card numbers (via privacy.com), and unique usernames (via 1Password) on every single site.

3) Occasionally abandon a username and start a new one. Oh well my internet points reset but :shrug:

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