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The privatization of policing

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Re: The privatization of policing

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> A few bad police apples A few bad apples spoils the bunch. Rotten apples produce gases that accelerates fruit ripening and turns everything else in the container rotten more quickly.

Bad cops couldn’t exist if there were good cops.

That doesn't follow. That's like saying if there were any good people at a given organization, it wouldn't be able to hold bad people.

Re: The privatization of policing

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So let me get this straight: A few bad police apples create a mass left-wing media outrage which results in the withdrawing of a public good (police protection), which results in people needing to hire private security, which results in even more objectionable actions taken by this less-accountable private security, than there were previously by the taxpaid police force? You don't say. I guess the only relative impro…

Saying that people pushing for police reform results in withdrawing police protection appears to be an unexamined logical jump in your reasoning. That's only the case because the police often choose to withhold police protection in response to police reform.

> the police often choose to withhold police protection in response to police reform

I am not sure this is accurate, and it’s similarly unclear to me what exactly you are referring to.

I don’t know what, specifically, you mean by “withhold police protection.” Would you provide some examples? And what evidence do you have that such action happen “often” as a response to police reform?

Re: The privatization of policing

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Equality before the law is a basic principle of Democracy. A privatized police will not, by design, apply the law equally to all people. That's unacceptable.

The current system does not apply the law equally. While I agree in principle, reality doesn’t match the reported ideal. This isn’t due just to police forces, but also to judges, juries, and the quality of lawyers. The rich, the good looking, and the well spoken have a distinct advantage in the court system. Additionally, most people never have their day in court, they’re instead pressured and intimidated into plea b…

I can understand that, but the solution can never be privatize the police - that is just giving up and formalizing the unfairness.

Re: The privatization of policing

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post #220

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Bad cops couldn’t exist if there were good cops.

That doesn't follow. That's like saying if there were any good people at a given organization, it wouldn't be able to hold bad people.

It actually does. If there were good cops they'd police and eject the bad cops.

You might have one or two here or there that got in, but they wouldn't last long.

Instead you see that even when bad cops are fired from their jobs, they just get hired somewhere else.

Re: The privatization of policing

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You have created a Strawman in your head and now debating agaist that strawman and not anything anyone has said here or anywhere that I am aware of This whataboutism around wage theft has no bearing on this converation nor is anyone in either government, or here in this discussion ever talked about not taking wage theft seriously When wage theft is reported it gets investigated, and as the studies people have posted…

Thank you!

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Re: The privatization of policing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have created a Strawman in your head and now debating agaist that strawman and not anything anyone has said here or anywhere that I am aware of This whataboutism around wage theft has no bearing on this converation nor is anyone in either government, or here in this discussion ever talked about not taking wage theft seriously When wage theft is reported it gets investigated, and as the studies people have posted…

Thank you!

I don't think that the parent understood where I was coming from when he called my position a what-about strawman. I'm sure that was in good part because I didn't do a good job of communicating what I was thinking. I attempted to fix that with additional information. Understanding what others are thinking and why is often helpful, especially in a democracy.
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