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In 2022, Web3 went just great

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Re: In 2022, Web3 went just great

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I'd be curious to see the source on those numbers and how they're broken down. For example, Terra/Luna was a spectacular crypto failure. FTX, on the other hand, was just plain old fraud, not really related to crypto itself.

The (lack of) infrastructure around crypto made the FTX fraud possible.

Re: In 2022, Web3 went just great

#32
post #15

That's it? I was expecting hundreds of billions; quite far significantly smaller than expected out of the $13+ trillions in transaction volume in crypto [0]. Nothing but a microscopic amount, when compared to the tens of trillions of illicit funds being processed by banks in dollars and left unchecked. [1] [2] Looks like this newsletter is another plain old side grift by Molly with the rest of the high profile extrem…

"A huge trove of secret government documents reveals for the first time how the giants of Western banking move trillions of dollars in suspicious transactions, enriching themselves and their shareholders while facilitating the work of terrorists, kleptocrats, and drug kingpins." Wow. This is the first I've heard of that, but I've heard of crypto shenanigans endlessly. It's a distraction in comparison.

You don't hear about it because it is only shades of illegal and/or hard to investigate, and most importantly, benefits powerful people (it is no coincidence that financial laws do not prevent this kind of rich people crime). It's been an open secret forever that London is dependent on laundering especially Russian oligarch's money.

Re: In 2022, Web3 went just great

#33
web2 scams are not web3, web3 involves bitcoin which current price is respectable the boom bust cycly in 20-21 was heavily macro related. Web3 also involves ipfs, you can search for any book currently and the data lives on the blockchain. If you don't see the benefits by now, it is whatever, blockchain is just a data structure, some people will never be convinced, postgres and procedural statements is all they want. The same people who will argue vehemently against NoSQL, is not the people who should be writing web3 is trash articles.

Re: In 2022, Web3 went just great

#34
post #22

I would feel bad for people who lost money in crypto if every time I tried to warn them during the bubble they wouldn't have said 'have fun staying poor' and called me ignorant. It is tough to remain motivated to try and convince people that they are making bad decision when they actively berate you. It feels like telling someone about to jump into the shallow end of a swimming pool from a balcony that they are going…

I think we need to look at this from the perspective of a society and ask ourselves what else we could have done. Obviously there are a whole lot of people in society completely lacking in common sense and critical thinking skills, while at the same time mass rudeness seems normalized too. Is this a failure of education, or parenting? Or has it always been this way, and the only difference is the way we communicate w…

> Or has it always been this way, and the only difference is the way we communicate with each other now naturally results in mass failures of common sense?

I don't think we're living in a particularly unique time this way. The book Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds was written in 1841 and was already then packed full of stories not dissimilar to the current crypto bubble.

I don't mean to sound defeatist, though. We could do more to financially educate people in general, which would provide a better defense against such manias.

Re: In 2022, Web3 went just great

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or we could spend less money on an ad campaign to explain what crypto actually is, and what it's good use cases are, and what it's not good for. Rather than, you know, binding it up in vague and obnoxious legalese.

The "not good for" list is "practically everything." The "good use cases" effectively don't exist. Every crypto solution falls into one or more of these buckets... - Has substantial centralized elements, could be done vastly more efficiently with a DB - "Decentralized" but still requires some central authority to provide critical features (particularly any form of conflict resolution) - Depends on one or more smart c…

Crypto has very limited good use cases. In countries where inflation has gone haywire (worse than Bitcoin) and the government and banks have put strict controls on the ability to exchange local currency for another, cryptocurrency can be a last resort for keeping money in some kind of value store exactly because the government can't regulate it effectively. With decentralised payment providers, this allows for normal exchange of money for goods and services in a time when your last paycheck may not be enough to pay for a single bread the next month.

It's hardly usable in countries with stable economies, but in countries like Turkey and Argentina I can see crypto being a better alternative than the official currency. It just comes with the caveat that the unregulated nature of the money means it can stop existing or become worthless without warning and that a power or internet cutoff will make your funds useless.

Smuggling foreign currency can be illegal or even dangerous but crypto can often be bought from the comfort of one's own home.

Balancing that risk against the terrible mismanagement of one's nation's official currency can be a worthwhile effort for a very select group of people.

Re: In 2022, Web3 went just great

#36

I would feel bad for people who lost money in crypto if every time I tried to warn them during the bubble they wouldn't have said 'have fun staying poor' and called me ignorant. It is tough to remain motivated to try and convince people that they are making bad decision when they actively berate you. It feels like telling someone about to jump into the shallow end of a swimming pool from a balcony that they are going…

I'd ask them "you rich yet" at this point.

Re: In 2022, Web3 went just great

#38

I would feel bad for people who lost money in crypto if every time I tried to warn them during the bubble they wouldn't have said 'have fun staying poor' and called me ignorant. It is tough to remain motivated to try and convince people that they are making bad decision when they actively berate you. It feels like telling someone about to jump into the shallow end of a swimming pool from a balcony that they are going…

>I would feel bad for people who lost money in crypto if every time I tried to warn them during the bubble they wouldn't have said 'have fun staying poor'

Not everyone that lost money did this to you though, seems unfair to judge most people who are just trying to get by because of a few assholes on the internet

Re: In 2022, Web3 went just great

#39

I'd be curious to see the source on those numbers and how they're broken down. For example, Terra/Luna was a spectacular crypto failure. FTX, on the other hand, was just plain old fraud, not really related to crypto itself.

>FTX, on the other hand, was just plain old fraud, not really related to crypto itself.

The fact that it's not related should tell you something. Cryptocurrency is designed to solve exactly the problems FTX had. It is designed to enable trustless finance. Why didn't cryptocurrency prevent that problem?

Because FTX wasn't using cryptocurrency, because cryptocurrency is unworkable.

Re: In 2022, Web3 went just great

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post #22

I would feel bad for people who lost money in crypto if every time I tried to warn them during the bubble they wouldn't have said 'have fun staying poor' and called me ignorant. It is tough to remain motivated to try and convince people that they are making bad decision when they actively berate you. It feels like telling someone about to jump into the shallow end of a swimming pool from a balcony that they are going…

I think we need to look at this from the perspective of a society and ask ourselves what else we could have done. Obviously there are a whole lot of people in society completely lacking in common sense and critical thinking skills, while at the same time mass rudeness seems normalized too. Is this a failure of education, or parenting? Or has it always been this way, and the only difference is the way we communicate w…

I mean, the historical solution to this type of stuff is just hardline regulation right? There isn't a general solution against bad decision making. Your toddler will drink that liquid under the sink -> you put that liquid in a really high place and now everybody will complain and have to find that stepladder every time they want to clean the drains.

The best non-regulatory fix I can think of would be socially enforcing that people stop profitting from convincing others into doing bad decision making.

It's not very easy though, since fraudsters only need to convince people once to make off with their profits, unlike a tradesman or manufacturer who needs to stay in business long-term.

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