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Tallow in plastics – why? (2016)

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Re: Tallow in plastics – why? (2016)

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Post by jcampbell1 »

Zircom wrote: post #76
jcampbell1 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was curious, and found the ingredients for a 1992 bar of zest from an eBay photo. It was a mix of soap with the detergent sodium cocoglyceryl ether sulfonate. The current recipe is all soap but they added a couple of chelating agents: Pentasodium Pentetate, and Tetrasodium Etidronate. The problem with the new recipe is these chelating agents suck. The only thing that can jail Mg/Ca2+ faster than soap scum forms is…

Where do you buy the STP?

Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Sodium-Tripolyphosphate-Super-Cleans-...

I did some research and it has benefits from as little a 2%, and the top performers use 35%. Not only does it chelate hard water, it effectively turns any oil on your dishes into soap.

Re: Tallow in plastics – why? (2016)

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

WalterBright wrote: post #73
drtz wrote: post #72

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> As history shows us, agriculture for profit is far cheaper and more effective than collective farms. I doubt the accuracy of this statement. But I'll make a largely-unsubstantiated claim of my own, nonetheless: for-profit agriculture has substantially increased the cost of for-profit healthcare by focusing on high-profit foods that are highly processed and addictive instead of foods that are actually good for us to…

> I doubt the accuracy of this statement Spend 5 minutes researching it with google what happens with collective farms. > for-profit agriculture has substantially increased the cost of for-profit healthcare by focusing on high-profit foods that are highly processed and addictive instead of foods that are actually good for us to consume People vote with their dollars what they want to eat. Besides, if you do google th…

> collective farms, the result in every case was famine

What about kibbutzs and moshavs in Israel? Granted, they are small-scale,

Re: Tallow in plastics – why? (2016)

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Post by Engineering-MD »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #17
mattkevan wrote: post #12

Our cat goes nuts for some plastic bags - licking and licking them like they’re the best thing ever. Granted he’s a little weirdo, but I looked into in on the off chance there was something wrong with him or the plastics could be harmful, but the only thing I could come up with was that some bags have more tallow in them than others and that was what he was reacting to. So, therefore, tallow in plastic = tasty for ca…

What currency out of interest? If it's pounds it's probably not the tallow the cat's after ;)

Is this a reference to the small bit significant traces of cocaine found on £ notes?

Re: Tallow in plastics – why? (2016)

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Post by citrin_ru »

ccooffee wrote: post #9

This submission claims that "traditional banknotes which are based on special and expensive paper suffer from poor tear properties and they have limited life", and touts tallow-dependent plastics as a solution. US currency is made of a cotton-linen blend, so (pedantically) it is not paper. Per US Currency Education Program [1], "it would take 4000 double folds, forwards and backwards, to tear a banknote". Is this ins…

> "it would take 4000 double folds, forwards and backwards, to tear a banknote". Is this insufficient for UK uses?

When I was in the US I've often was given heavy worn out banknotes sometimes with tears. Haven't seen so many badly damaged pounds so may be dollars can benefit from more durable material too.

Re: Tallow in plastics – why? (2016)

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Post by shadowofneptune »

citrin_ru wrote: post #84
ccooffee wrote: post #9

This submission claims that "traditional banknotes which are based on special and expensive paper suffer from poor tear properties and they have limited life", and touts tallow-dependent plastics as a solution. US currency is made of a cotton-linen blend, so (pedantically) it is not paper. Per US Currency Education Program [1], "it would take 4000 double folds, forwards and backwards, to tear a banknote". Is this ins…

> "it would take 4000 double folds, forwards and backwards, to tear a banknote". Is this insufficient for UK uses? When I was in the US I've often was given heavy worn out banknotes sometimes with tears. Haven't seen so many badly damaged pounds so may be dollars can benefit from more durable material too.

The issue is that the one-dollar bill is still being printed. Decades of inflation has made dollar bills much more common, which means they come out of pockets more, which means they wear faster. I expect once the penny finally goes out of use, dollar bills will as well, and you'll see a lot more dollar coins.

Re: Tallow in plastics – why? (2016)

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Post by bengale »

londons_explore wrote: post #24
ccooffee wrote: post #9

This submission claims that "traditional banknotes which are based on special and expensive paper suffer from poor tear properties and they have limited life", and touts tallow-dependent plastics as a solution. US currency is made of a cotton-linen blend, so (pedantically) it is not paper. Per US Currency Education Program [1], "it would take 4000 double folds, forwards and backwards, to tear a banknote". Is this ins…

Old UK banknotes, made of 'paper', had no real durability issue. I think the key benefit of polymer notes is the opportunity for far more security features. Holograms, Prismatic effects, braille printing, variable transparency, etc. Also, they're probably cheaper, considering most of Europe uses polymer notes too. The UK had issues with banknote forgery, so a change over to a new base material makes a good clean cuto…

Cuts off tax dodgers too. I have heard of people that had a lot of problems when the notes changed over because they had tens of thousands of old notes from cash in hand work over the years that hadn't been declared.

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Post by KptMarchewa »

chrisco255 wrote: post #43
londons_explore wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Old UK banknotes, made of 'paper', had no real durability issue. I think the key benefit of polymer notes is the opportunity for far more security features. Holograms, Prismatic effects, braille printing, variable transparency, etc. Also, they're probably cheaper, considering most of Europe uses polymer notes too. The UK had issues with banknote forgery, so a change over to a new base material makes a good clean cuto…

The United States created the Secret Service in 1865 to combat forgery: https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/United_States_Secret_Service And the currency itself has numerous security features to detect counterfeits: https://carnation-inc.com/blogs/money-handling-blog/100-bill...

For a 100$ bill, rest of them, as your article says, is way less advanced.

Re: Tallow in plastics – why? (2016)

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Post by BlueTemplar »

smegger001 wrote: post #64
eckesicle wrote: post #30

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There's £2Bn worth of fivers in circulation. A note weighs 0.7grams and contains less than 0.05% tallow. That means that between one and three cows supplied the tallow necessary to produce the entire monetary supply of the country. This anger seems somewhat misguided considering the number of animals that are butchered for food in the UK every day.

unless your a hindu.

This being the UK, sheep is more likely ?
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