Sergey Brin: Irate Call from Steve Jobs

Post by eyelidlessness » Tue, Jan 03, 2023, 8:26 AM UTC

throwaway82388 wrote: post #86

eyelidlessness wrote: post #71

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I think it’s simpler than that. He was an average person. Had a lot of business acumen, particularly well timed vision (after a bunch of poor timing), then he was a really successful guy who was just as flawed as the rest of us.

I think I understand your larger point, but whatever corrections or amendments need to be made to the myth of Jobs, the idea that he was in any way average shouldn’t be one.

Post by ggm » Tue, Jan 03, 2023, 8:29 AM UTC

mshake2 wrote: post #202

ggm wrote: post #196

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You're saying serfdom and bullying is justified by .. art?

Why did you substitute "art" for "bringing joy to millions of people for decades"?

Post by eyelidlessness » Tue, Jan 03, 2023, 8:31 AM UTC

kortilla wrote: post #180

eyelidlessness wrote: post #60

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It’s an honor to be suppressed by C-levels in two giant corporations! It isn’t fawning over the people who systematically deny me seeking value for my talent, I’m privileged to have both of them fuck me simultaneously!

You’re still missing the forest for the trees. It’s unrealistic for execs in companies that size to even take a cursory review of why each individual person left the company (and they would be incompetently wasting their time if they did). Anything that involves the attention enough to warrant actual emails makes that employee extraordinary. This is the same whether the outcome is negative or positive.

Post by jjulius » Tue, Jan 03, 2023, 8:35 AM UTC

eyelidlessness wrote: post #195

shadowgovt wrote: post #75

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I'm sure they can comfort themselves on the quarter to half a million annual they were being paid instead of the half a million to three quarters of a million a zero collusion market would have offered them. ;)

“Got table scraps; good table scraps, could’ve been better mind you, not especially great; enriched a few.” There, I think I know what to put in my will as how I will wish to be remembered.

Post by mshake2 » Tue, Jan 03, 2023, 8:37 AM UTC

endorphine wrote: post #197

mshake2 wrote: post #193

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Seems like a small price to pay to assemble the most innovative animation studio that would bring joy to millions of people for decades.

Whether it's "a small price to pay" depends on each and every individual that paid the price. I don't think it makes any sense for 1 single person to decide if the price paid was small, simply because they don't know what actual price was paid (in terms of suffering). Also, it sounds to me that's you're assuming that's a necessitated price to pay, which I don't believe is true (but I don't have any examples either).