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Sergey Brin: Irate Call from Steve Jobs

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Re: Sergey Brin: Irate Call from Steve Jobs

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> Basically, he said "if you hire a single one of these people that means war" I feel all the Google bosses wanted was for Steve Jobs to stop yelling. What would Zuckerberg have done? What would Musk have done? Heck, what if Jobs was on the other side of the equation here?

>What would Musk have done?

When you carry your own toilet paper you've got options.

Re: Sergey Brin: Irate Call from Steve Jobs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the millions of dollars in damages these emails caused, I'm pretty sure they went back to unsubpoenable smoke filled rooms, minus the smoke. Hell, the CEO of Twitter flew especially to Apple HQ to get their advertising spend reinstated. He wouldn't have done that if whatever he needed to say could've been said over email.

>He wouldn't have done that if whatever he needed to say could've been said over email. No, this is likely not the reason in this particular case. If email were a replacement for face to fact negotiation, sales people would have stopped taking flights 25 years. Instead, sales at the b2b level is still filled with travel and relationship building. Humans like humans showing up in person and to blow smoke up their ass.…

>Humans like humans showing up in person and to blow smoke up their ass

Humans also like that in person meeting to be a swanky ski village for them and their WaGs. Or some resort at an exotic beach location. Or some high end club. Or some other type of payola type of arrangement. Those are kind of hard to do over email

Re: Sergey Brin: Irate Call from Steve Jobs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably not that funny to the engineer in question, and Im willing to bet that Jobs didn't once approach him and offer him more money to stay.

I wouldn't make that bet. Jobs played favorites and I believe he was known to amply reward his favorites.

this email's aim is to suppress market wages.

you're mythologizing and neglecting the market-wide knock-on effects of rampant illegal wage theft collusion like this.

Re: Sergey Brin: Irate Call from Steve Jobs

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post #57

I don’t understand Jobs’ logic here. Is he just a bully? If Google makes such a great offer that his employee will leave him, shouldn’t he try to make a better offer, or meet with the employee instead of calling Sergey? Say he did get the offer canceled. How would this employee feel about working for a CEO that does this?

> Is he just a bully?

LMAO. Yes. And a bad person.

Re: Sergey Brin: Irate Call from Steve Jobs

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I mean, it can be both cool that I'm talented enough to have those two people fight over me, and also suck that my wages might get impacted. Ain't nuance neat? :)

Especially, if you can then use the paper trail of that fight in evidence in your lawsuit to obtain even more money from these two asshats.

Re: Sergey Brin: Irate Call from Steve Jobs

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post #57

I don’t understand Jobs’ logic here. Is he just a bully? If Google makes such a great offer that his employee will leave him, shouldn’t he try to make a better offer, or meet with the employee instead of calling Sergey? Say he did get the offer canceled. How would this employee feel about working for a CEO that does this?

Steve Jobs was a ruthless, envious asshole. He reacted this way inside Apple. The fact that Apple did as well as it did was despite this being a pretty well known central part of how the business was run.

Re: Sergey Brin: Irate Call from Steve Jobs

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post #57

I don’t understand Jobs’ logic here. Is he just a bully? If Google makes such a great offer that his employee will leave him, shouldn’t he try to make a better offer, or meet with the employee instead of calling Sergey? Say he did get the offer canceled. How would this employee feel about working for a CEO that does this?

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Re: Sergey Brin: Irate Call from Steve Jobs

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For those who don't know, this resulted in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L... .

For the civil case it's true that only the lawyers made anything worth having.

Isn’t that almost always the case in a class action suit?
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