How likely is google to break this if it gets popular?
They could easily override `chrome.tabCapture.capture` or some other function that you depend on once the Meet page is loaded.
Show HN: Beesy – Record Google Meets for free, download locally
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Re: Show HN: Beesy – Record Google Meets for free, download locally
#12Are you using the local storage of the browser, then letting the user download from there? Otherwise it would still be loading up to some cloud.
Personally, I use: https://www.read.ai/
Records the meetings, provides searchable transcripts, meeting summaries work pretty well, interactions, etc.
The key difference is it joins as a bot, so I don't have to think about it. However, it does require the files are stored in the cloud (although, I read.ai has an option to just track talk time, mute, etc; which doesn't record the meeting).
Not using any cloud would be a plus in my book.
Re: Show HN: Beesy – Record Google Meets for free, download locally
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can we solve this by putting a disclaimer in extension home page that it is upto the user to inform all parties and take their consent before recording ? Not really sure how to solve this, would love feedback.
Why would you need their consent? I record all my pro teams meeting with OBS in order to be able to watch a part of it in case my attention has been drifting away. It is perfectly legal. I would totally need their consent if I had any plan to make those videos available to anyone else but that is another subject (diffusion).
That is not how the law works. It is illegal to record them period.
Re: Show HN: Beesy – Record Google Meets for free, download locally
#14I'm genuinely curious of Google will allow this to stay up, seeing as saving Meet recordings is a feature that belongs to the paid tier of Meet (Workspace).
Not that they'd probably justify a takedown with that, but more that it could be used to record meeting participants without their consent.
Which is actually a big deal -- all videoconferencing software I'm aware of puts up a big notice and indicator that you are being recorded, and this is for both legal and privacy reasons.
While obviously you could always use any screen recording software (like OBS or even just QuickTime) to secretly record a video meeting... I'm not sure that a tool like this, specifically advertised for recording Meets, is entirely kosher whether legally or according to Meet's TOS. (Of course IANAL.)
If I were you, I'd add ridiculously large multiple disclaimers you have to check and click through to state you agree never to record any meeting participants without their consent. And even with that, I'm not sure how long this will stay up...
But nevertheless, technologically it's a very cool tool, so congrats! :)
Re: Show HN: Beesy – Record Google Meets for free, download locally
#15I'm genuinely curious of Google will allow this to stay up, seeing as saving Meet recordings is a feature that belongs to the paid tier of Meet (Workspace). Not that they'd probably justify a takedown with that, but more that it could be used to record meeting participants without their consent. Which is actually a big deal -- all videoconferencing software I'm aware of puts up a big notice and indicator that you are…
> it could be used to record meeting participants without their consent.
It's also possible to record a meeting inconspicuously by using literally any screen recording software. It's even built into macOS (via QuickTime), iOS (native function), and Android (native function).
At the same time, including support for undisclosed meeting recording "out of the box" doesn't seem like a good idea, it's certainly not respectful.
Re: Show HN: Beesy – Record Google Meets for free, download locally
#16I'm genuinely curious of Google will allow this to stay up, seeing as saving Meet recordings is a feature that belongs to the paid tier of Meet (Workspace). Not that they'd probably justify a takedown with that, but more that it could be used to record meeting participants without their consent. Which is actually a big deal -- all videoconferencing software I'm aware of puts up a big notice and indicator that you are…
People who are going to use this plugin is not Google's target audience for the paid tier.
No companies which makes a non trivial amount of money are going to use this plugin instead of buying Google's paid plan.
If you work in a company which will be going to use this plugin, get out of the company immediately and find a new job.
Re: Show HN: Beesy – Record Google Meets for free, download locally
#17I'm genuinely curious of Google will allow this to stay up, seeing as saving Meet recordings is a feature that belongs to the paid tier of Meet (Workspace). Not that they'd probably justify a takedown with that, but more that it could be used to record meeting participants without their consent. Which is actually a big deal -- all videoconferencing software I'm aware of puts up a big notice and indicator that you are…
> it could be used to record meeting participants without their consent. It's also possible to record a meeting inconspicuously by using literally any screen recording software. It's even built into macOS (via QuickTime), iOS (native function), and Android (native function). At the same time, including support for undisclosed meeting recording "out of the box" doesn't seem like a good idea, it's certainly not respect…
I don't think you read up to my fourth paragraph. ;)
Re: Show HN: Beesy – Record Google Meets for free, download locally
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would you need their consent? I record all my pro teams meeting with OBS in order to be able to watch a part of it in case my attention has been drifting away. It is perfectly legal. I would totally need their consent if I had any plan to make those videos available to anyone else but that is another subject (diffusion).
Because in some states consent is required before recording a conversation. Regardless of what you plan to use the recording for.
Ok that is just not the law in my country.
I think it is outside the scope of the software to define what one should or shouldn't do depending of every state/country juridiction.
Re: Show HN: Beesy – Record Google Meets for free, download locally
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it could be used to record meeting participants without their consent. It's also possible to record a meeting inconspicuously by using literally any screen recording software. It's even built into macOS (via QuickTime), iOS (native function), and Android (native function). At the same time, including support for undisclosed meeting recording "out of the box" doesn't seem like a good idea, it's certainly not respect…
I don't think you read up to my fourth paragraph. ;)
You're right. Sorry, my bad.
Amusingly (or concerningly?), that is the only one I somehow missed.
:-s
Re: Show HN: Beesy – Record Google Meets for free, download locally
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would you need their consent? I record all my pro teams meeting with OBS in order to be able to watch a part of it in case my attention has been drifting away. It is perfectly legal. I would totally need their consent if I had any plan to make those videos available to anyone else but that is another subject (diffusion).
That is not how the law works. It is illegal to record them period.
See reply to comment abovr. Juridictions varies depending on location, I don't think a software developer has to make sure its usage complies with every juridictions, it is up to the users to do that.