one of the main reasons i think people don't participate is because of the language, a lot of us are very good at reading english but are ashamed about our writing skills. Its very common to be downvoted or insulted because of that, im trying to get pass that problem right now
This isn't reddit, you're not going to get downvoted for incorrect grammar or spelling. Anyone who has been on HN for a day can tell it's a multicultural environment and there are many non-native english speakers. You shouldn't hold back your participation due to insecurities on your spelling or grammar. In my experience the only downvoted posts belong in the categories of; stupid, messaged which consist only of 'hah…
How to Participate in Hacker News
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Re: How to Participate in Hacker News
#421.) Most of the time I just tell stories. I am only 20 and have relatively little experience. The only thing I can really add is a well written comment that asks a question or explains something neat. 2.)The best way to participate is to go out and do something awesome. Take something you saw on the front page and mess around with it. Maybe something will happen and you make the front page. Probably it won't, but the…
PG likes to see your HN handle in YC applications. your HN handle is part of your online identity and reputation.
Yes, I've built up a 4000+ karma not because I some day want to be in YC, but because I like to participate in this community.
Re: How to Participate in Hacker News
#43What a well-timed post, particularly since reading a bizarre takeover of another thread by a single person who comes off as a bit paranoid: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3420845
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#44Am I the only one who gets tired of the first sentence of so many replies being along the lines of "I understand where you're coming from and I respect you as a person, but..."? Be respectful, but if you disagree, just disagree. Don't patronize.
However, I've concluded that on the Internet there is no such thing as a good discussion (oh no, a universal statement! Well, let's say there aren't very many good discussions). Perhaps this is due to the vast amount of research material easily accessible to online debaters -- there is no incentive to work together with another individual to come to a conclusion, since the conclusions can be more easily found elsewhere.
Instead, people write things like my diatribe here to "correct" perceived mistakes in others' statements but in the end someone is right and the other is wrong and compromise basically never occurs.
In such a situation, the best thing you can do is make sure that you're the person who is right. Whether you couch your opinion in pandering terms or you state it harshly, the only thing that seems to matter is correctness. It's no longer worth my time to continually attempt to be polite and kind in internet discussion.
tl;dr you're right about that.
Re: How to Participate in Hacker News
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
PG likes to see your HN handle in YC applications. your HN handle is part of your online identity and reputation.
to be fair, some of us are never going to make a YC application. Yes, I've built up a 4000+ karma not because I some day want to be in YC, but because I like to participate in this community.
Re: How to Participate in Hacker News
#46one of the main reasons i think people don't participate is because of the language, a lot of us are very good at reading english but are ashamed about our writing skills. Its very common to be downvoted or insulted because of that, im trying to get pass that problem right now
People are much more likely, for whatever reason, to dismiss mistakes when the possibility of such is explicitly acknowledged by the author.
Re: How to Participate in Hacker News
#47Here's another suggestion: flag sparingly. A lot of long-time HN'ers are frustrated at the "flag patrols" -- people of one group who don't like such-and-such author and flag them and their submissions. I've heard several people complain to me about having normal articles flagged and I've done my share of complaining. Don't be the guy who takes out your personal grudges in the form of flagging. Let the votes work. The…
You know, the only site that had moderation pretty much figured out (meaning: signal to noise ratio is much better than rest of internet) for over a decade was Slashdot.
Making the system both resilient to attack as well as usable for it's intended function is not straightforward or easy. Hey, I hear that Malda is looking for work... I'd hire someone like him or a Wikipedia veteran.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's pretty dumb. Your account could be compromised for spam purposes, or someone could easily start posting things as you. Because your full name, personal domain (which includes your last name), college, and interests are all part of your profile, it would be fairly trivial to post some pretty embarrassing comments or links as you. Then if someone (potential employer/girlfriend/family member/etc) does a google se…
What is preventing somebody from copying your profile and creating zcohn, the malicious hacker from Seattle who likes parkour, technology, and doing bad things? Your identity is comparably open as mine is as far as details. At some point people are going to do bad things to this profile. No doubt. With that in mind though, I can post here because I want to say something and contribute, not because of Karma. If I had…
I don't care if you're from Seattle or India, or if you're a young guy or an old lady; I care that you're the same person who posted that real interesting post three months ago about certain subject, or with whom I've had some interesting discussion about this or that, and who has a certain opinion about a controversial topic. I don't know if a certain post with your handle comes from the person I know is smart and probably knows what (s)he's talking about, or from some troll.
If I can never be sure if you're the same person, then trust can't be established; it's not about karma as "points," it's about karma as a property of human relations.
It's the same reason why I (almost) never respond to Anonymous Cowards on Slashdot - I'm never sure if the person who replies to me next is the same I was talking to.
Re: How to Participate in Hacker News
#49Here's another suggestion: flag sparingly. A lot of long-time HN'ers are frustrated at the "flag patrols" -- people of one group who don't like such-and-such author and flag them and their submissions. I've heard several people complain to me about having normal articles flagged and I've done my share of complaining. Don't be the guy who takes out your personal grudges in the form of flagging. Let the votes work. The…
Curious, if pg is reading this, how often does the flag link generate real actions on submissions?
Re: How to Participate in Hacker News
#50Am I the only one who gets tired of the first sentence of so many replies being along the lines of "I understand where you're coming from and I respect you as a person, but..."? Be respectful, but if you disagree, just disagree. Don't patronize.
But when I'm dealing with non-techies, I see a use to preface any opinion or question with some sort of disclaimer of that sort. I do this in order to lessen the probability that they take offence to what I say and then become uncommunicative. On more than one occasion, I thought we were having a productive conversation about their problems with the software and I find out (when they inexplicably become angry) that they thought I was insinuating their incompetence or lack of intelligence or something.
I think the terse, abrupt style that I and many other techies prefer, comes across as needlessly insensitive to non-techies and we need to be mindful of that if we want to allow them to contribute to this community. (We do like teachers, accountants and shopkeepers commenting on startups in education, finance and retail, right?)
Not to the extent of prefacing everything with patronizing verbiage, but to be mindful not to be too abrupt. Because many people take that as being disrespectful (in my understanding).