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Re: Get Running with Couch to 5K

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Post by smugma »

arcade79 wrote: post #142
twawaaay wrote: post #48

Personally, I think aren't many better return on investment activities than spending half an hour every day on a morning jog. You can run more than that but I think half an hour steady state easy run each morning gives you 80% of results. If you love running (I do), knock yourself out. But that half an hour is enough to do wonders to your health over long periods of time with minimum chance for negative consequences.…

I agree with you, but there's one big "Oh, right..." in there. Up until a year and a half ago, I had never enjoyed a jog in my life. I had done plenty of "jogging" during school years, as part of gym class, but nobody had ever explained to me difference between a pleasant jog and running until you drop. I stopped exercising for many years. Then started powerlifting. A couple of years ago I decided that I should take…

Two weeks ago I was heading to go for a run and my 8 year old declared he was coming with me (this was 630AM on a school day). We did 1.25 miles but the most interesting thing he said was that we weren’t running, we were just jogging. It was a slow 12’ pace… slower than I’d go solo but I didn’t want to wear him out.

Anyway, this bias you mention seems to be taught/ingrained at a young age!

Re: Get Running with Couch to 5K

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Post by idk1 »

MarcScott wrote: post #39

I did this about four years ago. I hated it. Even running with my collie or listening to audio books didn't help. It just felt like a miserable chore, every time I put on my running shoes. In the end I just quit. Now I hike every weekend, at least 10 miles, which lets me go out with family and friends. I also do various martial arts with my son, which as a shared activity is so much more enjoyable. The only time I'll…

I was writing a comment very similar, I tried it and hated it, I thought running was the worst thing ever and just could not enjoy it even though I was most of the way through the program.

What I do now is go cycling/spinning for 30 mins at the gym with an audiobook, it feels like the same proper cardio, but everything else is different, I'm not outside, I don't have to watch out for anything, it's warm, by bones don't feel like they're all getting shaken about.

Re: Get Running with Couch to 5K

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Post by metoorunning »

ThePadawan wrote: post #13
potatochup wrote: post #4

Did this during pandemic lockdowns. Still running, did my first half marathon last year.

Very much in the same boat here - 60 lbs down, still running. Congrats!

Me too! Never ran a day before COVID - picked up during covid - and ran a sub 100 minute half marathon in 2022.

Re: Get Running with Couch to 5K

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Post by cloudier »

arcade79 wrote: post #142
twawaaay wrote: post #48

Personally, I think aren't many better return on investment activities than spending half an hour every day on a morning jog. You can run more than that but I think half an hour steady state easy run each morning gives you 80% of results. If you love running (I do), knock yourself out. But that half an hour is enough to do wonders to your health over long periods of time with minimum chance for negative consequences.…

I agree with you, but there's one big "Oh, right..." in there. Up until a year and a half ago, I had never enjoyed a jog in my life. I had done plenty of "jogging" during school years, as part of gym class, but nobody had ever explained to me difference between a pleasant jog and running until you drop. I stopped exercising for many years. Then started powerlifting. A couple of years ago I decided that I should take…

Yes, this is exactly the pattern you see in the r/c25k subreddit. Lots of people hit a wall (usually around week 5 or 6, where you start running for longer stretches of time) because they’re running too fast. The most unintuitive part of this program is pacing yourself.

Re: Get Running with Couch to 5K

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Post by igouy »

FartyMcFarter wrote: post #174
mclouts91 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to realise that weight bearing exercises (this means running, walking etc) are good for bone health. Low impact activities like cycling don’t give your bones the right stimulus to stay strong. And as the other commenter has said, the impact damage is probably in the minds of people who say that running does then damage but in reality it doesn’t do damage, it is actually a benefit to bones and joints.

It's a benefit if you do it properly and don't overdo it. The poison is in the dose and intensity.

What on the "Get running with Couch to 5K" website suggests to you not doing it properly or overdoing it ?

Seems like you are scaremongering.

Re: Get Running with Couch to 5K

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Post by igouy »

SergeAx wrote: post #207

I actually took that program and was running 5k. Once I even got to 10k relatively easy. But I never get the kicks from running except those numbers achieved. The only pleasure from running for me is when I stop running and go to shower to wash all the sweat. But I can go to shower without running and that would be same pleasure without prior suffering. How do you motivate yourself to run?

— Try doing a race:

See how you do and see how you feel about trying to-do a specific time. Figure out what kind-of training you need to-do that specific time in some future race, and work towards that.

— Try doing different kinds of running:

This video gives a quick 4x4 minute interval training summary

https://vimeo.com/75764170

https://www.ntnu.edu/cerg/advice

— Try running with other people.

Re: Get Running with Couch to 5K

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Post by googlryas »

igouy wrote: post #188
googlryas wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I generally agree with the advice, but anyone in good health should be able to run a 5k. It's literally 20ish minutes of exercise. Beyond that is when the negative effects of running start to come into play.

Average finish time: 00:29:02 Finishes: 44,009,780 https://www.parkrun.org.uk/

Yeah, I typed 20 instead of 30 and just checked the replies to my comment now:(

Re: Get Running with Couch to 5K

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Post by igouy »

lottin wrote: post #7

Running is better than sitting on the coach. But strength training is better than running. Why you should not be running , by Mark Rippetoe: https://startingstrength.com/article/why-you-should-not-be-r...

What a strange article!

Seems to start with a strawman argument where "running" means nothing but "long slow distance exercise".

Running can mean 4x4 minutes at 90% maximum heart rate.

https://www.ntnu.edu/cerg/advice

Re: Get Running with Couch to 5K

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Post by rconti »

Someone1234 wrote: post #185
rconti wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[citation needed] I've spent a lot of time running and cycling, and personally, I can burn 800 calories an hour running, and 600 cycling. I can easily sustain heartrates of 150-160bpm but struggle to break 130 swimming. Found a few source that also put running at the top. https://revelsports.com/which-sport-burns-the-most-calories/

Your link is to an autogenerated content farm. So [Citation Needed] from you too. Here's an actual source: https://www.health.harvard.edu/diet-and-weight-loss/calories... Running at normal sustained speeds is only 240-336, Elliptical is 270-378, Aerobics 300-420, Stationary Bicycling 315-441, etc. Keep in mind 6 MpH is considered Vigorous, and you're talking about 10 MpH sustained to get good calorie burn which just…

I'm sorry that you found the one source I posted was a content farm, because I found numerous others saying the same thing.

The link you posted is an absolute joke that you're cherry picking, because the only reason to put "Bicycling, Stationary: vigorous" above "normal sustained speeds" is because you made the utterly inaccurate editorial decision to do so. You're flat out wrong if you believe a 12 minute mile (which is barely walking speed) is equivalent to "vigorous stationary cycling".

If you consulted your own chart you'd see it lists, under "training and sports activities", "Bicycling >20mph" as 693cal for a 185lb person and "Running: 10mph (6min/mile)" as 671cal which at least is close to accurate.

Unfortunately, you don't seem to be remotely familiar with the physiological demands here, so I don't know what to say. Your argument was that running couldn't possibly burn more calories because it only involved the lower body.

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