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PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute
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Re: PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute
#22Not saying this didn't happen, but let's wait until we see something a little more official than a random claim on a blog that's known for its bias against PayPal before flipping out.
From first hand experience, PayPal has always sided with the buyer. I've definitely run into similar situations where I was forced to give a refund or face losing the item / PayPal withdrawing the money from my bank account even though I stated that no refunds were allowed on my eBay listing. PayPal told me that it meant (crap) and there was no such thing as a no refund policy.
If that's the case, I can't wait to go buy a bunch of music CDs and software on Ebay to pay with PayPal, only so that I can pirate them and then get my money back. /sarcasm
What a shortsighted policy, but then again PayPal has never been known for their agreeable business decisions...
Re: PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute
#23In the other recent paypal PR debacle I don't think paypal deserved the level of vitriol that was leveled at them. Regretsy screwed up by operating in a way that would have caused most banks to shut them down, but it was horrible customer service on paypal's part that turned it into a disaster. For this I would like to hear more details of the story but I don't see how paypal could possibly be in the right if the fac…
In the other recent paypal PR debacle Link? edit: thanks guys
Re: PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute
#24This is atrocious. Couldn't they sue and say that they did not own the violin since they did not pay, thus destroyed someone else's violin?
Re: PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute
#25In the other recent paypal PR debacle I don't think paypal deserved the level of vitriol that was leveled at them. Regretsy screwed up by operating in a way that would have caused most banks to shut them down, but it was horrible customer service on paypal's part that turned it into a disaster. For this I would like to hear more details of the story but I don't see how paypal could possibly be in the right if the fac…
In the other recent paypal PR debacle Link? edit: thanks guys
Re: PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute
#26In the other recent paypal PR debacle I don't think paypal deserved the level of vitriol that was leveled at them. Regretsy screwed up by operating in a way that would have caused most banks to shut them down, but it was horrible customer service on paypal's part that turned it into a disaster. For this I would like to hear more details of the story but I don't see how paypal could possibly be in the right if the fac…
In the other recent paypal PR debacle Link? edit: thanks guys
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Re: PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute
#27Wait, isn't $2500 very cheap for a violin? I seem to remember the rather mediocre violin I had as a kid costing more than that (such hopeful tiger parents).
Really? I think my childhood violin cost less than $200.
Re: PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute
#28Yeah, Regretsy.com is a bastion of fine journalism.
I'd wait to get your panties in a knot until a real news site reports this.
Re: PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute
#29Wait, isn't $2500 very cheap for a violin? I seem to remember the rather mediocre violin I had as a kid costing more than that (such hopeful tiger parents).
Cheap for an antique, perhaps. An everyday playing violin, especially for a student, can be had for one or two hundred dollars. Less, on eBay.
Re: PayPal forces buyer to destroy $2500 pre-WWII antique violin in dispute
#30Some guides for buying violins that go back to 2006 which say to ignore the labels on violins.
http://reviews.ebay.com/Buying-an-old-violin-on-ebay?ugid=10...
http://reviews.ebay.com/What-apos-s-in-a-Name-A-Guide-to-Lab...
http://reviews.ebay.com/Violins-on-Ebay?ugid=100000000142981...
Paypal TOS Covers counterfeit items:
10.1 b Further, if you lose a [Significantly Not as Described] Claim because we, in our sole discretion, reasonably believe the item you sold is counterfeit, you will be required to provide a full refund to the buyer and you will not receive the item back (it will be destroyed). PayPal Seller protection will not cover your liability. https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/marketingweb?cmd=_render-c...
If Paypal decides you sold a counterfeit item, you lose the item and your money.