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How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by biorach »

alentred wrote: post #30

To be fair, I think some examples, and specifically those from 95/NT and then 3.1 times, are too far-fetched. I agree that consistency is important, but it doesn't mean that every screen needs to be redesigned altogether. For instance, I don't think that examples of Screen Saver Settings or File Properties are relevant, as long as their styling is in line with the rest of the OS. One thing that surprises me a lot, th…

Basically, yes.

I believe some are no longer supported, but are still in use internally.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by Eleison23 »

Dalewyn wrote: post #35

>The ability to choose icons that are more than 30 years old is still here, with the inclusion of the very important and absolutely critical to the good function of the OS moricons.dll I will happily bet there are programs out there that would crash and burn horrifically without moricons.dll.

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Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by Dalewyn »

oblak wrote: post #23
cokeandpepsi wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why they rushed out the release, Windows 10 was and is fine and I don't think any customers were really interested in this new version/ui update/whatever total blunder imo but I think most people are just happy it's not as screwed up as whatever the hell Windows8 was for me personally besides the common complaints just getting to the weather widget is now a huge microannoyance that drives me up the wall

I am still baffled by the whole Windows 8 drama. All they did was they replaced a menu with another one. Everything else was the same or better. Supposed power users freaking out about something completely inconsequential. What the hell is wrong with people

Windows 8 with Metro and Start Screen was practically unusable, with the desktop in a /desktop computer/ relegated to third-rate citizen status.

Any other Windows UI even as far back as Windows 1 is better than the piece of hot, useless garbage that was Windows 8.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by CoastalCoder »

daemin wrote: post #26
vasqw wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Costs money.

So does Windows itself. If you're afraid to or don't want to pay for software then you should probably use some variant of GNU/Linux instead.

> Windows doesn't cost money because I pirate it.

I think the parent was assuming only legal options.

If that's not a constraint, then food, cars, etc. are also free.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by alganet »

muststopmyths wrote: post #17

As a 25+ year user of windows none of this stuff bothers me. What ticks me off is just the abysmal quality of windows 11 compared to the past. It’s like no one working on it has any pride in their job Example: - hate the new notification area. The action center was so much better - dumb stuff like a window update notification that shows a c# class name instead of windows update - clicking said notification does not b…

The installation got into my nerves. Past versions wouldn't force having network or a Microsoft account. You could always unplug your cable and setup a local account. Now, that requires opening a console and typing OOBE commands, which took me a while to figure out.

The secure boot requirements were also a pain. My hardware is compatible and my first install got TPM enabled, but memory protection and core isolation wasn't available. It took me a couple of BIOS changes and installs to get everything working.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by mihaaly »

alganet wrote: post #27
mihaaly wrote: post #3

I am still looking forward for the option to ungroup task bar buttons, preferably with titles. Again! Something that was there before, worked, and was useful. But some designer decided we don't need that, to the bin with it!

If you're willing to tweak your installation, you can revert to the Windows 10 taskbar using the free third-party ExplorerPatcher utility. It has an option to not combine taskbar items and a lot of other goodies.

Wasn't this corrupted by one of the Windows updates? Or was that the other product? Got the whole UI frozen or such. I read about third party apps that hack back features this way or the other but I am still hoping a bit that MS will get back their senses and not some - potentially fragile to underlying OS structure change - third party app is required to make things functional again. But I am around the breaking point actually. I use several insteance of the same app all the time and switching simply between those using the taskbar is just not working, bogus, unpredictable, not fulfilling the purpose. I cannot relly get used to it and starting to give up hope. The usability of Windows diminished a lot to me.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by matsemann »

mihaaly wrote: post #3

I am still looking forward for the option to ungroup task bar buttons, preferably with titles. Again! Something that was there before, worked, and was useful. But some designer decided we don't need that, to the bin with it!

Yup, the sole reason I downgraded back to 10. So stupid to force me to loose seconds each time I use the taskbar. Aka all the time.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by pjmlp »

muststopmyths wrote: post #17

As a 25+ year user of windows none of this stuff bothers me. What ticks me off is just the abysmal quality of windows 11 compared to the past. It’s like no one working on it has any pride in their job Example: - hate the new notification area. The action center was so much better - dumb stuff like a window update notification that shows a c# class name instead of windows update - clicking said notification does not b…

As user and developer on Windows since version 3.1, what irks me is WinDev love for COM above anything else (the idea is great, the IDL tooling and template metaprogramming stuff they keep shipping while ignoring tools from the competition for COM, not so much), and the GUI civil war in Redmond among UI framework teams that started on Windows 8 with no end in sight.

Re: How many layers of UI inconsistencies are in Windows 11?

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Post by NGRhodes »

Windows file version history is an interesting example of UI inconsistent AND being broken as a result. It has been removed from settings (was in Win 10), but still exists in the control panel (where you can't configure folders to be included in file version history).
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