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Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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I think that would be precisely zero people? Unless you're confusing New York state with the federal government?

You were not differentiating. You simply said "in government custody"

The differentiation was already made much earlier in this thread.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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Why do you think so? He seems to have had very little reason to not kill himself, prison is a tough place for sex offenders.

Not for people of his status. Look at Maxwell, currently in a reportedly 5 star prison for the elite like her. There are a number of other reasons of course. The CCTV just happened to malfunction at the time of his death. His cell was cleared of anything that could be used to commit suicide, and the autopsy report showed inconsistencies with his reported method of suicide.

> Not for people of his status

Name one similar case.

> Look at Maxwell, currently in a reportedly 5 star prison for the elite like her.

She's a woman, it's not the same. Besides, Maxwell is in FCI Tallahassee which is far from a 5 star prison. It's not even a FPC.

Epstein wasn't going to have a nice life at club fed, he would've either have spent the rest of his life in the SHU or been repeatedly assaulted and eventually murdered by other inmates in gen pop.

> The CCTV just happened to malfunction at the time of his death. His cell was cleared of anything that could be used to commit suicide, and the autopsy report showed inconsistencies with his reported method of suicide.

The reality is that none of these things are true.

The CCTV did not "just happen to malfunction at the time of his death", the CCTV footage was eventually recovered and showed nobody entering the cell.

He had been taken off suicide watch and had bed sheets.

His autopsy report did not actually show inconsistencies despite a fox talking head telling you so.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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> There are tons of dangerous criminals He was one of, if not, the most high-profile inmates. > he was on suicide watch until he wasn’t Why was he taken off suicide watch when he was known to be suicidal?

Because he convinced a judge that he wasn’t suicidal.

He'd attempted suicide mere weeks prior to his death. He was also an extemely high-procile inmate facing serious charges.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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application of law is politicized and protects status quo power

What does that mean? It's at least somewhat politicized and protects the status quo, but it's clearly not entirely such - powerful status quo people go to jail and suffer other penalties. The meaningful question is, how and in what ways is it true, and who what where and when? And what shall we do about it?

as for what to do about it, anarchism (against state and capital) makes a compelling case over incremental policy reform

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To be clear I'm talking about larger scale (or involving the 'elite' class) crimes, not the things everyday folk get caught up in, which generally proceed quite a bit quicker.

That's literally the fucking problem. Two legal systems, one for "elite" where they get a fucking slap on the wrist, and one for the "poors" where you get the living shit beat out of you and end up with a hospital bill and a charge for "resisting" arrest when they twisted your arm so hard that you involuntarily resisted the movement. When it comes to poor people cops will do shit like throw a baton on the ground, put…

Indeed, being able to tell a cop you'll have your long list of very expensive lawyers contact them has a habit of slowing them down amazingly quickly.

If only law enforcement faced severe penalties for abusing their power, given they should be held to a higher standard of demonstrating good values and restraint in such roles in society.

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You just aren’t wealthy powerful and or white enough. I’m not saying it to be rude to you I’m saying as a disgusted criticism of our failure to apply justice equally.

Exactly how white do you have to be?

One mustn't consider the SaudiInstagram "influencer" (or "brand ambassador") pipeline if you want to keep your sanity.

Source: one who turned a blind eye while facilitating and regrets it greatly

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Not for people of his status. Look at Maxwell, currently in a reportedly 5 star prison for the elite like her. There are a number of other reasons of course. The CCTV just happened to malfunction at the time of his death. His cell was cleared of anything that could be used to commit suicide, and the autopsy report showed inconsistencies with his reported method of suicide.

> Not for people of his status Name one similar case. > Look at Maxwell, currently in a reportedly 5 star prison for the elite like her. She's a woman, it's not the same. Besides, Maxwell is in FCI Tallahassee which is far from a 5 star prison. It's not even a FPC. Epstein wasn't going to have a nice life at club fed, he would've either have spent the rest of his life in the SHU or been repeatedly assaulted and event…

> the CCTV footage was eventually recovered and showed nobody entering the cell.

Source? I haven't heard or seen this.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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> Is there a legitimate reason so few people have been charged in the case of Epstein? Given the probably reluctance of most victims to come forward, active concealment by (apparently) multiple large banks (Deutsche Bank was sued and settled with New York, and now JP Morgan by USVI), investigators getting proof beyond a reasonable doubt even if there aren’t powerful people with law enforcement connections with an int…

There's literally a black book with names in it, as well as flight records. There is plenty of evidence here to get started on a charge without the banks or victims cooperating.

Being in an address book or on a flight is not going to be able to convict anyone.

The large number of CDs and hard drives recovered from the 2019 raid on his New York apartment seems a much more likely source of usable evidence.

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> Not for people of his status Name one similar case. > Look at Maxwell, currently in a reportedly 5 star prison for the elite like her. She's a woman, it's not the same. Besides, Maxwell is in FCI Tallahassee which is far from a 5 star prison. It's not even a FPC. Epstein wasn't going to have a nice life at club fed, he would've either have spent the rest of his life in the SHU or been repeatedly assaulted and event…

> the CCTV footage was eventually recovered and showed nobody entering the cell. Source? I haven't heard or seen this.

Can you find a credible source describing the malfunction in the first place? It's tough to find anything beyond "some footage unusable".

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/6553399/Indictment-ag...

The indictment states

>As confirmed by the video obtained from the MCC's internal video surveillance system, this was the last time anyone, including any correctional officer, walked up to, let alone entered, the only entrance to the tier in which Epstein was housed until approximately 6:30 a.m. on August 10.

I'd also note that the DOJ going after the jail guards is a pretty strong evidence against any conspiracy to murder Epstein.

Re: Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JPMorgan, US Virgin Islands lawsuit says

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The party suing in this case is the government.

It's a bit weird to refer to the attorney general of the USVI as "the government", that's something you'd generally associate with the federal government. Not only that, said AG was apparently fired by the USVI government for bringing this suit, probably because the premise is fairly ridiculous https://viconsortium.com/vi-government/virgin-islands-attorn...

> It's a bit weird to refer to the attorney general of the USVI as "the government", that's something you'd generally associate with the federal government.

People have different experiences, of course, but I'm confident that it's commonplace - and correct - to refer to any such party as "the government". Ask an attorney.

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